I want what you guys are taking! "Pots with paint brushes calling kettles names! With reference to the Hupe brothers, if one was a different color, it might ease some of the confusion as to who is who! You so funny!
Sent from my iPad On Jun 19, 2016, at 7:57 PM, Dark Matter via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com<mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>> wrote: Looks like we got the band back together on this one. Cheers, Martin On Sunday, June 19, 2016, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com<mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>> wrote: This has strayed waaaaaaaay off the topic of meteorites... Sent using the mail.com<http://mail.com> mail app On 6/19/16 at 6:38 PM, MexicoDoug via Meteorite-list wrote: > Captain Blood wrote: > > "Hi all, Teaching Anthropology, which includes linguistics, I began over > 30 years ago to collect the origins of phrases. > The original phrase in this instance is > "Pot calling the kettle black." > > ===================================== > You are a cunning anthropologist Michael, but I disagree. The context is not > at all my affair, so I only comment on the use of Adam's original aphorism or > proverb he intended. Though there are even older proverbs capturing his > thought, I think he might have preferred to use the Sufi proverb from the > middle ages, hundreds of years before the pot/kettle abomination existed: > > "Many of the faults you see in others, dear reader, > are your own nature reflected in them." (Rumi ca. AD 1250) > > The pot and kettle saying is so butchered from its origin and barely > resembles it, and yours is not the original. It is fair game to use as he > did, since there is no authority on such idioms and the interpretation is > supported, whether it sounds good to everyone's ear or only to some. I have > traced the origin of the pot/kettle proverb undisputedly to the ancient > Greek, "Snake and the Crab" and it intended hypocrisy, whereas the > reflection/coloring suggests that the accused reserves the right to be pure > and without fault, a different concept. Pot calling the kettle black is a > late-comer, and already a poor corruption of a 3000 year old proverb that > diminishes the original, so that is why I feel the writer can appropriate it > as they feel convenient and not be beholden to any higher authority on its > use due to the selection of an arbitrary point in time, and Adam has > referenced his with a less common modern variant. English is always evolving, > and this is a living example of how it ha pp > ens. > > Kindest wishes > Doug > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Blood via Meteorite-list > <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com<javascript:;>> > To: Paul Gessler <cetu...@shaw.ca<javascript:;>>; Met. Adam Hupe > <raremeteori...@centurylink.net<javascript:;>>; Meteorite List > <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com<javascript:;>> > Sent: Sat, Jun 18, 2016 7:56 pm > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pot Coloring The Kettle Black > > Hi all, > Teaching Anthropology, which includes linguistics, I began over > 30 years ago to collect the origins of phrases. > The original phrase in this instance is > "Pot calling the kettle black." > Michael Blood > > > On 6/16/16 8:11 PM, "Meteorite List" > <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com<javascript:;>> > wrote: > > > Pot Coloring The Kettle Black > > > ______________________________________________ > > Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the > Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com<javascript:;> > https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > ______________________________________________ > > Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the > Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com<javascript:;> > https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ______________________________________________ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com<javascript:;> https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ______________________________________________ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com<mailto:Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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