Magic rocks 65M y.o. that cure diseases... what's not to believe? By the way, I have a bridge for sale if anyone is interested.
-Michael in so. Cal. On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 7:08 AM, Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote: > Interesting if true David but in 20 years of collecting I've come across > this scenario many times where "authorities" and people new to meteorites > think they have unique material...always it has turned out to be wrong once > the respected scientists who regularly work on meteorites get > involved....good luck though...always here to answer questions if > possible....be careful. > > On 8 Sep 2017 09:54, "Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list" > <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote: >> >> Then your guy is smoking some really good weed.:) >> >> These Chinese crack me up. >> >> Michael Farmer >> >> > On Sep 7, 2017, at 2:02 PM, David Tann <dbt...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > Mike, I didn't make it clear, a syndrome I suppose when you try to type >> > a quick email on a crowded commuter train in the peak hours of the morning. >> > >> > I'm London based, new to meteorites collection as you would have >> > gathered. This reliable source of mine in China has around 40kg Nantan >> > amongst a few of his private collector friends. The rest of the 9.5 tons he >> > claims were either with Chinese authorities (museums, unis and government >> > run parks) or have been secretly traded abroad particularly in around 1985. >> > >> > The much bigger thing however is his claim of a massive amount of non >> > magmatic meteorites embedded and intertwined in stones, even I know that >> > would be something really big if proven genuine. They reckon, with >> > archeologists and geologists' help, those meteorites were from Mars and >> > crushed to earth 65m years ago! Needless to say, if this was true it would >> > be something so astonishing that no one would have even dreamed of! The guy >> > told me they spent over £1m to protect the secret site and transported the >> > massive discovery to a private place in Beijing. They also used small >> > samples of these as "medical stones" in treating some rare disease and >> > apparently it worked! >> > >> > The reason I say he is reliable is that he is introduced to me by my >> > best friend in China who is at the vice ministerial level, he would not >> > introduce anyone doggy to me as a friend that's for sure. The guy himself >> > also has other very high level connections. But of course the only sure way >> > is to independently verify things, hence my approaching you guys in the >> > first place. >> > >> > Best, >> > >> > David >> > >> > Sent from my iPhone >> > >> >> On 7 Sep 2017, at 14:50, Michael Farmer <m...@meteoriteguy.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> Are you joking? There are tons upon tons of Nantan. I've sold nearly a >> >> half a ton. >> >> I have a 92 kilo one sitting in Beijing and much more sitting in >> >> Tucson. >> >> >> >> Michael Farmer >> >> >> >>> On Sep 7, 2017, at 1:13 AM, David Tann <dbt...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Thanks, Mike, I'd go even further in saying sadly 99% of the >> >>> "meteorites" circulating freely in and from China are terrestrial rocks! >> >>> The real Nantan meteorites in private collection are extremely rare, a >> >>> total >> >>> of around 40 kg. There is also a rarer type of meteorites intertwined >> >>> with >> >>> and inserted into earth rocks indicating high impact crushing/explosion. >> >>> I'm >> >>> happy to be proven wrong but as I said I have reasonable cause to >> >>> believe my >> >>> source to be reliable and genuine, although it's going to take me >> >>> sometime >> >>> to completely verify and document both types. I would naturally like to >> >>> have >> >>> the samples tested. I was hoping you guys would be able to test and >> >>> analyse >> >>> the composition of the samples for me, but I'll probably approach the >> >>> Natural History Museum. >> >>> >> >>> Best, >> >>> >> >>> David >> >>> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> >> >>>> On 6 Sep 2017, at 20:47, Michael Farmer <m...@meteoriteguy.com> >> >>>> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> David. Sorry but I do mineral shows in china. Everyone has a nice >> >>>> stamped paper from one Chinese government source or another. Actually >> >>>> your >> >>>> piece certainly looks like Nantan meteorite. Sadly Nantan is nearly >> >>>> worthless. >> >>>> >> >>>> Michael Farmer >> >>>> >> >>>>> On Sep 6, 2017, at 11:55 AM, David Tann <dbt...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Thanks, Mike & Adam, for your valuable comments which I fully >> >>>>> understand and much appreciate. Fake meteorites and scandalous traders >> >>>>> were >> >>>>> indeed acknowledged as a big problem in China, much like elsewhere. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> I do however have reasonable confidence in the authenticity of the >> >>>>> meteorites as they were from no ordinary tom dick and harry but a >> >>>>> trusted >> >>>>> and reliable source with high level connections in China; and they had >> >>>>> been >> >>>>> assessed by professionals and academic experts from the Chinese >> >>>>> Academy of >> >>>>> Sciences as genuine. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> However, I'd like to have these and a great deal more independently >> >>>>> tested and verified in the UK. Could you advise on how to go about that >> >>>>> please? >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Thank you in advance, your help is much appreciated. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> David >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> On 6 Sep 2017, at 16:52, Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list >> >>>>>> <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> People are suckers and if they want to buy crap then let them. In >> >>>>>> china most people want cheap. Well real good meteorites aren't cheap. >> >>>>>> So >> >>>>>> they buy fakes and are happy with low prices. >> >>>>>> Michael Farmer >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>> On Sep 6, 2017, at 9:46 AM, Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list >> >>>>>>> <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote: >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> It reminds me of the China Syndrome when hundreds of terrestrial >> >>>>>>> stones were sold to collectors as meteorites on eBay. Anything that >> >>>>>>> was >> >>>>>>> dark and rounded including iron ore was sold to unsuspecting >> >>>>>>> collectors as >> >>>>>>> meteorites fleecing them out of thousands of dollars. Some of them >> >>>>>>> even >> >>>>>>> included old looking collection ID cards. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Link to China Syndrome: >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> http://imca.cc/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26&Itemid=114 >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> It was just a matter of time before fraud spread into all sectors >> >>>>>>> of meteorite collecting. First it affected irons, then Pallasites, >> >>>>>>> then >> >>>>>>> falls, then Martians and now Lunar material. The worst part is some >> >>>>>>> dealers >> >>>>>>> are using the IMCA's good name to distribute untested, unproven and >> >>>>>>> in some >> >>>>>>> cases fake material completely bypassing protections put in place by >> >>>>>>> following Meteoritical Society protocols which IMCA members are >> >>>>>>> supposed to >> >>>>>>> adhere to. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Adam >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> On 9/6/2017 7:03 AM, Michael Farmer wrote: >> >>>>>>>> That's worth about $50 >> >>>>>>>> Michael Farmer >> >>>>>>>>> On Sep 6, 2017, at 1:36 AM, David Tann <dbt...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> Gents, >> >>>>>>>>> <image1.JPG> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> This 2800g IAB Nantan Meteorite was discovered in 1958 in >> >>>>>>>>> Nantan, Guanxi, Southwest China. The fall was observed and clearly >> >>>>>>>>> recorded >> >>>>>>>>> in Chinese historical literature, it happened on 7 June 1516 over >> >>>>>>>>> an 8 km >> >>>>>>>>> length of area. Anyone interested please get in touch. >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> David >> >>>>>>>>> 07771888566 >> >>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> On 5 Sep 2017, at 17:54, Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list >> >>>>>>>>>> <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> I agree fully. Great time to buy. >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Michael Farmer >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 5, 2017, at 10:31 AM, Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list >> >>>>>>>>>>> <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Just like Martians were a few years ago when the self-pairing >> >>>>>>>>>>> and piggy-backing reached an all time high at around 2012/NWA >> >>>>>>>>>>> 7000. And >> >>>>>>>>>>> before that, it was falls when some less than honest dealers were >> >>>>>>>>>>> substituting NWA material in place of the real thing. I remember >> >>>>>>>>>>> Claxton, >> >>>>>>>>>>> which I acquired from Michael Blood later selling for less than >> >>>>>>>>>>> a $100.00 >> >>>>>>>>>>> gram due to a lack in collector confidence. >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> No meteorite is immune from less than honest business >> >>>>>>>>>>> practices. Many >> >>>>>>>>>>> collectors will not touch anything that post dates 2012 and >> >>>>>>>>>>> are very leery of falls. >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> On the bright side. There is no better time to purchase >> >>>>>>>>>>> genuine lunar material with good provenance and laboratory >> >>>>>>>>>>> confirmation >> >>>>>>>>>>> since the price is sure to go up just like the Martians that >> >>>>>>>>>>> were dumped a >> >>>>>>>>>>> few years ago. >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Adam >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/5/2017 8:30 AM, Michael Farmer wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>> You are pissing in the wind. Lunars are about worthless now. >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Moroccans have dropped the price to less than that of eucrites. >> >>>>>>>>>>>> I want just >> >>>>>>>>>>>> in Morocco. 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