How? I didn’t even receive any of these posts. The list is dead. It often takes days for things to show up. Facebook I can show dozens of specimens instantly to thousands of people. I can make them sold instantly. I can upload all the photos and videos I want.
Sent from Smallbiz Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Monday, June 15, 2020, 3:53 AM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote: Take it private if you want to argue. On 6/14/20 at 12:46 PM, Marcin Cimała - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list wrote: > Hi Marcin, > > I did not mean my reply to sound aggressive or personal towards you. I > have always liked you and never had a problem with you personally. I > just don't like Facebook (or Zuckerberg) and the increasing stagnation > of this fine mailing list is a direct result of social media sites > like FB siphoning away all of the online oxygen. Facebook seeks to > control information and discourse - a monolithic entity answerable to > nobody that exploits it's userbase as a resource to enrich itself. It > does this without regard to the collateral damage done to privacy or > civil rights. All the while, FB is doing nothing original or > innovative. Chatting, posting, groups, and every other functionality > of FB are things we can do elsewhere. We don't *need* Facebook. It > needs us. > > ===== > Nothing personaly ofcourse. > I completly dont understand Your point of view and negative approach. I > never saw any "control information" on FB except some "jail time" for some > persons for their political comments or radical posts. Even I was 24h banned > once but it was becouse of my comment under political post. So this was not > connected to our hobby. If You stay away from bullshit like political posts > You are safe. It was surprize for me but I completly agree with this "jail > time". It was lesson. > > I tryed to show You how to use Facebook as very valuable, friendly platform > but seems You are too negavite to it. Sorry to see that. Its Your right, I > understand. > > > > > This List introduced me to the meteorite world. It brought me to the > dance, so to speak. And after many years of playing the social media > field, I have come back home to my high-school sweetheart, the > Met-List. > > ======= > me too, it was the best source of meteorite informations, sales, but it was > many many years ago. Its like Met Bull with classification info but without > photos of specimens. Its like telling that Radio auditions are better than > TV shows becouse in TV speaker is watching You. I cant agree becouse its up > on You how You use it. You dont have that controll watching TV or read > newspapers. You eat what they serve You there. > > > A lof of other collectors and dealers still congregate on FB and many > do quite well with sales. That's fine and I wish them success in what > works for them. I was one of the first handful of meteorite people to > become active on FB back in 2009 and now I am not the first to pack up > and leave that venue. I probably won't be the last. I've already > noticed that some List members are not very active on FB any more. > Maybe it's for the same reasons or they have their own reasons. But, I > think it's high time to get this mailing list rolling again. FB has > stolen the thunder for too long. The Met-List and FB don't have to be > mutually exclusive and both can co-exist. But, if Zuck and FB had > their way, venues like this mailing list would be trampled into > silence or absorbed into the Borg-like collective that is Facebook and > Amazon. > > To each their own, but long live the List! > MikeG > > ======== > I still cant understand what Zuckenberg have to You reading my posts in > meteorite group about my new slices. > Sorry but this sounds like irrational bullshit to me. This is soo strange > that You have used FB before so what happend ? > > Nothing personaly Michael. > > > -----[ MARCIN CIMALA ]----[ +48 793567667 ]----- > http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl > http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com > --------[ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ]-------- > > > > > > > On 6/14/20, Marcin Cimała - POLANDMET <mar...@polandmet.com> wrote: > > This is not a good point. You missing it. > > Do You watch TV ? You choose TV program You want to watch. You buy > > newspapers You think are worth Your money. > > Same You do on facebook. You choose Your friends and groups You want to > > watch for informations You want to see. Valuable for You. If they are > > crap, > > > > You leave groups, You unfriend stupid peoples the same as You turn to > > another TV channel if they start comercials in the middle of movie or You > > go > > > > to another page if there is stupid article or not interesting for You. > > > > You have Your smartphone and computer? They spies You even better than > > cameras on the streets. Then why You think Facebook spies You better than > > Your phone ? If You feel unfonfortable, sell all electronic devices, unpug > > Your net cable, turn off wi-fi. No, You cant. > > > > My understand of Facebook (I dont use any other social media) is that it > > is > > > > like TV. I watch only this channel that Im interested. Im in meteorite > > groups, not all of them, just some, in my actual car group, in car that I > > want to buy group, cats group, 3D printing groups, my photo camera groups. > > Groups that are importand to me, same as I like to watch Discovery > > channels, > > > > National Geographin or history channels in TV but I dont watch news > > channels > > > > or some other crap things in TV. > > > > Got it ? You still can have 0 friends on facebook and You can be in 3 > > valuable meteorite groups read all the news about them. What this will > > tell > > > > Zuckenberg about You ? That You like rocks. Is this something bad ? No I > > dont think soo. > > > > Think about this > > > > -----[ MARCIN CIMALA ]----[ +48 793567667 ]----- > > http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl > > http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com > > --------[ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ]-------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Hi Marcin and List, > >> > >> Yes, the List has been quiet lately and part of that is because > >> Facebook is strangling other venues. I don't see that as a good thing. > >> This List is far more preferable (IMO) than an invasive venue that > >> spies on your every move, filters your feed with restrictive > >> algorithms, takes ownership of your content, and engages in behavior > >> that is destructive to civil discourse. I deleted my Facebook account > >> and couldn't be happier about it. > >> > >> Starting very soon, I will doing my part to re-invigorate this List. I > >> will start posting regular updates with the latest Met Bulletin > >> approvals and other content that I used to waste on Facebook. > >> > >> Screw Facebook and Zuckerberg. > >> > >> Best regards, > >> > >> MikeG > >> > >> > >> > >> On 6/14/20, Marcin Cimala - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list > >> <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote: > >>> Hello list > >>> I see there is only discusion about Pictures of the day :) Is this list > >>> dead > >>> > >>> ? > >>> Come to the Facebook peoples, it dont bite. Meteorite group, Polandmet > >>> Meteorites group and many other very valuable groups with alot info > >>> about > >>> meteorites and thousand of users. > >>> > >>> I have started in Meteorites group discusion that every new > >>> classification > >>> should include few photos of specimen. Not in Encyclopedia of Meteorites > >>> > >>> but > >>> > >>> reference photos submited with classification and provided by > >>> specimen/main > >>> > >>> mass holder. > >>> > >>> When Im sending type specimen to the lab I also need to send them few > >>> photos > >>> > >>> of entire mass wirth scale cube and also photo of cut surface, slice. > >>> This > >>> will give every meteorite his "face", idea what is NWA 12123214 and if > >>> slice > >>> > >>> I just bough look like reference photo. > >>> > >>> Every time there is Met Bull update there are many rare specimens but > >>> they > >>> stay only as number. Sometimes we can find them on ebay or search name > >>> in > >>> Google we can find specimens in someone website. But this really should > >>> look > >>> > >>> like that ? We have 2020, every morocan in the desert have now > >>> smartphone > >>> with high quality camera. I get their photos every hour. Photos of > >>> incredible specimen. But they can be seen only by few of us. Why not for > >>> everyone and forever? Most dealers who submit big ammount of specimens > >>> in > >>> Met Bull sell online so it is not a problem to require some > >>> representative > >>> photos of specimen or the biggest mass. You dont have good camera ? > >>> Whats > >>> the problem? You can find 10 friends with Canon, Nikon or new Iphone to > >>> prepare requested pictures the same as You collect all requested > >>> informations about Your specimen like date of find, TKW, place of find > >>> etc. > >>> > >>> I realy dont see a problem. This need only some discusion and some good > >>> will > >>> > >>> -----[ MARCIN CIMALA ]----[ +48 793567667 ]----- > >>> http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl > >>> http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com > >>> --------[ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ]-------- > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ______________________________________________ > >>> > >>> Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and > >>> the > >>> Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > >>> Meteorite-list mailing list > >>> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > >>> https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > >>> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> Galactic Stone & Ironworks : www.galactic-stone.com > >> Instagram : www.instagram.com/galacticstone > >> Twitter : www.twitter.com/galacticstone > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > -- > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Galactic Stone & Ironworks : www.galactic-stone.com > Instagram : www.instagram.com/galacticstone > Twitter : www.twitter.com/galacticstone > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ______________________________________________ > > Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the > Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > ______________________________________________ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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