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Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2017 00:00:11 -0700
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Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
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Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: Unclassified
Contributed by: Larry Atkins
http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp?DD=04/14/2017
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Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2017 09:17:17 -0700
From: Joe Gianninoto <[email protected]>
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Subject: [meteorite-list] Polarizing Microscope
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I have a excellent plus Polarizing Microscope for sale. Its a Meiji ML9430
trinocular model with transmitted and reflected light. If anyone is
interested contact me. They do not make this model anymore the closest is
Meiji MT9900 which sells for $8,000.
Regards,
Joe
IMCA 7960
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Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2017 20:22:35 -0400
From: Larry Atkins <[email protected]>
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Subject: [meteorite-list] Ad - and New Paper about Osceola
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Hello List,
I thought I'd share some new things today. First, Alan Rubin has produced a
very interesting paper about some of the L chondrites in our collections, and
Osceola played it's part. Be sure to give it a read, I found it fascinating!
Here's a link to my Osceola page, Alan's paper is at the bottom. I still have
some Osceola available.
https://www.cosmicconnectionmeteorites.com/osceola/
I've recently had 3 stones classified and I was super happy with the results.
The first one is a case of redemption! I posted this one to the MPOD on
11/27/2015 and there was some doubt as to its meteoritic origins. Thankfully it
is a meteorite, NWA 11107, 1 of only 11 with this classification. I am open to
offers on the 2.5Kg stone.
NWA 11107 2.56 kg Eucrite Melt Breccia, 1 of only 11 This one is special. The
finder apparently burned some cloth on the stone when he found it, maybe giving
thanks? It's a must see.
https://www.cosmicconnectionmeteorites.com/shop/fujbqube0p2j9hqjp7yizncufiuszw
NWA 11107 3.24g Eucrite Melt Breccia, 1 of only 11
https://www.cosmicconnectionmeteorites.com/shop/wwjgnwga3gn75luir7elwn9fvappze
This one was a bit of a surprise. The stone was quite dark and I wasn't sure
what to think of it, Howardite was not my first guess.
NWA 11108 5.74g Howardite
https://www.cosmicconnectionmeteorites.com/shop/nwa-11108-howardite-end-cut-5747-g
This one I pretty much knew was a howardite. One look and you will agree, It's
got that classic look! The pictures are a bit dark but it's actually very fresh
looking material.
NWA 11184 4.11g Howardite
https://www.cosmicconnectionmeteorites.com/shop/nwa-11184-full-slice-4111-grams
Entire Sales Page
https://www.cosmicconnectionmeteorites.com/shop/
Thanks and enjoy the weekend!
Sincerely,
Larry Atkins
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www.CosmicConnectionMeteorites.com
IMCA # 1941
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Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2017 23:17:15 -0400
From: MexicoDoug <[email protected]>
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Subject: [meteorite-list] NASA humiliates elderly engineer's widow
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Maybe this guy can get a job at United when this deeply saddening case is over.
A reputable Apollo engineer's 74-year old widow fell on hard times and tries
to sell a legal memento for $2000 to help with the mounting medical and child
expenses (as a single grandmother who lost her daughter also) and then is
abused by bureaucrats at NASA. Original article from the Washington Post:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/04/14/humiliating-sting-operation-against-elderly-widow-of-apollo-engineer-draws-court-rebuke/?tid=hybrid_collaborative_2_na&utm_term=.43e1a6b38f82
NASA ?sting? operation against 74-year-old widow of Apollo engineer draws court
rebuke
By Fred Barbash April 14 at 4:34 AM
Joann Davis of Lake Elsinore, Calif., in 2011. (Sarah Burge/The
Press-Enterprise via AP)
Agents of the U.S. government are entitled to immunity from lawsuits for what
they do in the line of duty, as long as they do it right, in accord with the
Constitution.
But what one NASA investigator did to Joann Davis, a financially distressed
widow of an engineer on the Apollo program who was trying to raise a little
money, was too much for a federal court of appeals to stomach. And on Thursday,
the judges let her suit against him go forward.
Here?s what happened, as described in an opinion issued by a panel of the U.S.
Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit in Pasadena.
Robert Davis was, by all accounts, a brilliant engineer, employed by North
American Rockwell as manager of NASA?s Apollo 11 program.
When he left, he took with him two mementos: One ?contained a rice-grain-sized
fragment of lunar material, or ?moonrock;? the other contained a small piece of
the Apollo 11 heat shield.?
According to ?family lore,? Neil Armstrong gave the paperweights to Davis in
recognition of his service to NASA.
Robert Davis died in 1986. His widow, Joann, who later remarried, fell on hard
times in 2011. Her son had become ill, requiring over 20 surgeries. Her
youngest daughter died, and she found herself raising several grandchildren in
her 70s.
In need of money, she thought of selling the paperweights, only to find that
auction houses were uninterested.
She then contacted NASA for help in finding a buyer for what she described as
?2 rare Apollo 11 space artifacts.?
Her innocent email inquiry produced a wholly unanticipated result when it
arrived in the NASA bureaucracy. It wound up not in the hands of some kindly
space veteran but in the office of NASA?s Inspector General at the Kennedy
Space Center in Florida.
There, an agent smelled a crime. Perhaps, he thought, she was trying to unload
purloined government property, a crime.
NASA ?sting? operation draws court rebuke
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The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit in Pasadena allowed a suit
against a NASA investigator to go forward. The NASA investigator conducted a
"sting" operation against a 74-year-old widow of a Apollo engineer, who was
attempting to sell moonrock and a piece of the Apollo 11 heat shield. (United
States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit)
The IG?s office launched an investigation, getting a ?confidential source? to
call Davis pretending to be a broker. He called himself ?Jeff.?
Jeff pretended to have previously worked at NASA and promised to help her sell
the paperweights.
The two exchanged seven phone calls, during which Davis expressed concern that
NASA would confiscate the paperweights unless she could prove they were a gift.
She explained, according to court documents, that she wanted ?to do things
legally? because she was ?just not an illegal person.?
Jeff said he was a legal person too, but reminded her that the sale of a moon
rock ?can?t be done publicly.?
After the phone calls, Norman Conley, a criminal investigator in the IG?s
office, obtained a warrant stating that Davis was ?in possession of contraband.?
They then planned a sting operation on the 74-year-old woman.
Jeff arranged to meet with Davis on May 19, 2011, at a Denny?s Restaurant in
Lake Elsinore, Calif., for purposes, she was led to believe, of finalizing the
sale of the paperweights.
Davis went with her second husband, Paul Cilley.
Greeting Davis, who is 4-foot-11, were three armed federal agents, with three
Riverside County Sheriff?s officials present but not visible, apparently as
backup.
The court opinion described what happened next:
Davis placed the paperweights on the table. Jeff said he thought the heat
shield was worth about $2,000. Shortly thereafter, Conley announced himself as
a ?special agent,? and another officer?s hand reached over Davis, grabbed her
hand, and took the moon rock paperweight. Simultaneously, a different officer
grabbed Cilley by the back of the neck and restrained him by holding his arm
behind his back in a bent-over position. Then, an officer grabbed Davis by the
arm, pulling her from the booth. At this time, Davis claims that she felt like
she was beginning to lose control of her bladder. One of the officers took her
purse ? Four officers escorted them to the restaurant parking lot for
questioning after patting them down to ensure that neither was armed.
She kept telling the officers she needed to use the bathroom. Undeterred, they
continued walking her to the parking lot for interrogation, however, the court
said. She then ?urinated in her clothing.?
She was soaked in urine, visibly, the court said. Still, they continued
interrogating her in the restaurant parking lot for between an hour and a half
and two hours. They read her Miranda rights, ultimately allowed her to leave
and referred the case to the U.S. attorney in Orlando.
There never was a crime, of course. She didn?t steal the artifacts. Ultimately,
the investigation was closed when the prosecutor in Orlando declined to bring a
case.
In 2013, Davis and Cilley sued the government and Conley, seeking damages for a
violation of their constitutional rights. Conley claimed ?qualified immunity?
from the suit, legally available to federal agents unless they violate ?clearly
established? constitutional rights, in this case, Davis?s Fourth Amendment
right against unreasonable search and seizure. A district court rejected the
claim and he appealed.
A very small piece of moon rock taken from Davis during a sting operation.
(U.S. District Court for the Central District of California via AP)
On Thursday, the appeals court ruled against him. He might be entitled to
qualified immunity, had his actions been reasonable, wrote Chief Judge Sidney
Thomas for the panel. But they weren?t.
?Conley knew that Davis was a slight, elderly woman ? less than five feet
tall,? Thomas wrote. He knew she lost control of her bladder and ?was wearing
visibly wet pants.? He knew she was unarmed and he knew she had ?not concealed
possession of the paperweights, but rather had reached out to NASA for help in
selling? them. And he knew from the phone conversations that she wanted to sell
the paperweights ?in a legal manner.?
?Despite all of this knowledge, Conley did not inform Davis that her possession
of the paperweights was illegal or ask her to surrender them to NASA. Instead,
he organized a sting operation involving six armed officers to forcibly seize a
lucite paperweight containing a moon rock the size of a rice grain from an
elderly grandmother.
Conley ?had no law enforcement interest in detaining Davis for two hours while
she stood wearing urine-soaked pants in a restaurant?s parking lot during the
lunch rush,? the court wrote.
The detention was ?unreasonable ? unreasonably prolonged and unnecessarily
degrading.?
The future of Davis?s suit is uncertain. A federal court found against her in
her separate suit against the government itself, according to the San Francisco
Chronicle,
John Rubiner, an attorney for Conley, told 5KPIX in San Francisco that he was
examining the ruling and had not decided what to do next. He said that a trial
court considering her case against the government determined that Conley had
asked Davis if she wished to use the bathroom to clean up and whether she
wanted to speak with him at her home, but she declined.
According to the San Francisco Chronicle, the trial court dismissed the suit
against the government on the grounds that Davis had given ?free and voluntary?
consent to the agent?s questioning in the parking lot and was not in custody
while being questioned.
Davis?s lawyer, Peter Schlueter, told the Chronicle his client can sue for an
abusive interrogation even if she was not in formal custody, however.
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