I really like the first couple of "CLASSIC" lists and then it started getting a little more of a "my martian favorite is a better idea".
Yah, yah, yah.
I would prefer to corrupt to "Getting started, the Beginners Collection " . All three SNC's are not in a beginner collection unless he is a scientist or millionaire! Same with ecrusites, diogenites, or other exotics.
Here is my List. It is chosen for education purposes, for cost factor, for beauty, and FOR NUTURING LOVE OF THE HOBBY.
1. Gibeon.......great iron, cost effective for larger piece, nice widmanstatten pattern, iron education.
2. Any NWA....... to learn fusion crust, cost effective for larger specimen, learn the iron grains principal. Learn of hunting the deserts and where meteorites are easier to spot, geo politics, foreign lands.
3. Nantan.......Lets learn rust, Lawrencite, before we get too far financially into meteorites, lets learn to protect them. Very
affordable, learn to love the down trodden that fell in the wrong place, fate..
4.Allende.......Lets learn how precious they are, carbonaceous chondrite's are special, and affordable in the Allende, strewnfield education, geo-economics of meteorites in small communities.
5. Canyon Dieblo.........This is the crater meteorite, lets learn a little about impacts, impactites, and astrophysics of meteorites,
History of mining and property rights of meteorite locations, HISTORY of meteorites is important, this one has history.
6. Any meteorite from one's home state/area that is a local meteorite to say, "this is found where I come from..."
7. Any meteorite that one has found. Finding ones own meteorite is hard to do but this is an extremely important part of
any beginner's collection. Not all meteorites in the Beginners Collection should be easy to bag. Note lucky #7! This one
leaves the amateur LOTS of room for optimism to grown in the the hobby, ask lots of questions, a chance to contribute to
the world of meteorites. I suppose in retrospect that by the time one finds their first meteorite, that they MAY break out of the beginner collecting catagory.
8. Any meteorite from a famous dealer either past or present, worship those that help the hobby. My First was from Jim Strope, second was from Mike Farmer, third was a Bob Haag pallesite! I was off to a great start!
9. Bragging spot for personal bragger, either large, small, gift from ?????, hole in it, venus or odd shapped shikote-alin, looks like a squirrel, bought it for a dime, etc. This one goes in the "special to me" box. Now here one would find a bessy speck of Moon or Mars, or specks of Tagish Lake, or even Park Forest! Remember "beginner" word, meaning affordable, and probably small, fascinating in nature.
10. Not even a meteorite, FIND A FALLING STAR by H. H. Nininger. and in this slot too, Rocks From Space or any other special book that may or may not bear a signature of a living meteorite person . A to Z that is signed would fit!
11. (What is this)...A nice collection of locally found meteorwrongs for education in what makes a meteorite a meteorite, and not.
I realize this is not an official "classic" meteorite list but Beginners Collection TO ENRICH THE LOVE OF COLLECTING METEORITES would be more interesting to the beginner. "Having been there, and what I found most valuable to "bag early" list would be the same as "classic"?
Sorry for my corruption of the classic theme.
Dave Freeman
IMCA #3864
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Martin and others,
Martin, with your list you have captured my thought that started this thread.
What "classic" meteorites are first rate, recommended and available to collectors, and as rocks should remain stable in our lifetime.
Mark Bostick, your list list also captured this thought. Other lists were a combination of classics and personal favorites. Another list given by Chicago Steve is, well...unique.
Norbert's list is an all-galaxy roster of primo cut/choice materials that do belong on some kind of all time list. What a list it was...I wish they were available to all of us.
My first list was written in about 3 minutes...I did not put a lot of thought into it but would only change a few to create my own classic list...meteorites that we all should own.
I'll give this list to others one day when they ask..."What would you recommend I start my collection with?" The classics of course.
John
PS Maybe I'll make it a list of 20, or 50...
Hi - here's my Beginner's Top Ten,
because I'm sometimes asked, which meteorites would be suitable for the beginning collector.
1. Mundrabilla (etched) 2. Juancheng 3. Sikhote-Alin 4. Allende 5. Millbillillie 6. A big unclassified NWA 7. DaG 735 8. A meteorite from your home country 9. Vaca Muerta 10. Dho 461
Remarks: 1. Mundrabilla with a proper etching is one of the most beautiful iron meteorites. The lamellae are short and the fields small , thus already on small surfaces there are a lot of details and the pattern visible (Neumanns, Troilit eyes, sometimes barred..). If you don't find an etched Mundrabilla, take a Gibeon, but take care, that the Widmannstättern are not faible.
2. Juancheng It's an obseved fall, cheap and much fresher than the Gao-Guenies. Perfect Peas like Pultusk. Cut, it's one of the best breccias, which you will find for the money.
3. Sikhote, of course. A famous fall, well available. Choose an entire specimen with good regmaglypts (no shrapnel) and try to get a "blue" one with real fusion crust. It's the largest iron shower in modern times and the single one which produced such an immense number of complete, regmaglypted fresh individuals. No similar iron is available at a comparable low price.
4. Allende. one of the cheapest CV3. Covers the corbonaceous group. Contains the oldest known minerals of the solar system. Observed fall. Take care not to buy a brownish weathered specimen, choose a cut specimen with those large witish, irregular shaped inclusions, called CAIs.
5. For the HED-Group Achondrites Millbillillie is ideal, it's fresh, a classic locality and not more expensive than most of the weathered desert eucrites. Take a fullslice or an endcut. Pay not more than 15/g at a dealer or try to get it cheaper from ebay.
6. Now you'll need a real big specimen for putting on the desk, for impressing your friends, for playing and for satisfying your haptic desires. Take an unclassified desert find from ebay, don't pay more than 80-120/kg, except it is a fresh crusted or oriented one. Criteria for the choice: You just have to like it and it has to be LARGE!
7. All beginners want to have a piece from Moon or Mars! DaG 735 is fresher than DaG 476, both are the cheapest SNCs. Normal price on ebay would be +/- 250$/g nowadays. Beware of those enthusiasts, who still have them on their pages at prices from years ago of 1200/g and up.
8. All collectors will feel after a while, that they urgently need a meteorite found as near as possible to their homes. Search the BMH-online database to find the finds&falls of your home county and then: happy hunting!
9. Vaca Muerta is by far the cheapest Mesosiderite. Cheaper than all rusty, crusty desert Mesos. Take a cut specimen, it should be as fresh as possible (take a look if it has much fresh metal) and choose that one, which has the largest variety of inclusions. Pay not more than 2 - 2.5$/g. If it should be a Pallasite: Brenham and Brahin are by far the cheapest, but problematic concerning rust. Choose a sealed slice (and this is still no guarantee, that it will remain stable!). Take a Brahin from ebay and don't pay more than 2$/g. More expensive, but aesthetic and good boys, are Imilac and Esquel. Very stable without any prevention. Translucent slices of Imilac (forget the individuals of Imilac, mostly they are skeletons without olivines) starts approx. at 15/g, but are more difficult to find than Esquel.
10. See 7. Why Dho 461? Because some fools recently got hysteric about a little oscillation of the Moon prices and didn't get it yet, that the prices are now again the same as before this short period, so that they still throw away their Dho 461 at 500$/g, which is a somewhat silly cheap price, hehe.
Keep your fingers away from Nantan, Campo del Cielo, Dronino - they are dirt cheap, but often rust like hell, so that it's no fun at the beginning and they will stay cheap until you are more experienced.
Any comments? Martin A.
----- Original Message ----- From: "mark ford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] My Top 10 of classic meteorites
Here's my top ten
1 Allende 2 Allende 3 Allende 4 Allende 5 Allende 6 Allende 7 Allende 8 Allende 9 Allende 10 Allende
But hey I'm not fussy.
:)
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