Amen! Adam who are these people!
                        Kirk.......
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> 
> Dear Adam and List:  I encourage you to at a minimum to name names, and better yet 
> file lawsuits if you truly have cases of fraud.  This will help clean up the 
> business and create a climate of less fraud within the business.  Also, by duing so 
> you will eliminate some of the scum that operates within the business of meteorites 
> and the passion of most of the members of our list.  You have the legal 
> responsibility to do so that others do not suffer the same fate.  Best endevours.  
> Please do us the favor.  Let the chips fall!!
> Sincerely, Dirk Ross.....Tokyo
> 
> Even if a dealer passes a "hot potato" he/she should take the responsibility to make 
> things right and not just pass the buck on to the person who sold them the bogus 
> material.  dr
> 
> On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 3:17:00 AM +0900 (JST)
> Adam Hupe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Dear Dave and List,
> >
> > The reason I am so upset about fraud is that it directly affects the value
> > of our collection and takes some of the fun away from the avocation.  I will
> > give you a few examples:
> >
> > I recently traded with a well known and somewhat respected dealer.  After
> > analyzing the material he sent I was disappointed to find it was not what he
> > reported it to be.  When confronted he claimed another well known dealer
> > sold it to him.  I called the other dealer to let him know what he was
> > distributing was bogus. He said the other dealer made it up.  Now, I do not
> > know which one is telling the truth so I will no longer do business with
> > either one.
> >
> > We had yet another well known dealer try to illegally interfere with one of
> > our auctions by calling the auction house and claiming part ownership in one
> > of our specimens even though we paid 100% for the specimen and have had
> > clear title since the beginning.  The only motivation I can see for this is
> > pure greed and lack of a moral compass.
> >
> > Total Known Weights, when reported on ebay are inaccurate about 38% of the
> > time.
> >
> > Pairings, some of which are not correct, are being made by sight alone with
> > no scientific input.
> >
> > Some people continue to sell terrestrial or man-made objects as meteorites
> > when they know differently.
> >
> > Meteorites are being sold as main masses when they do not fit the criteria
> > even when known pairings of greater weight are known.  When something is
> > assigned a different Name or Number even though it is paired does not make
> > it a main mass.
> >
> > I am hoping my message will get to those who are committing fraud and help
> > stop this destructive practice but experience tells me otherwise.  I should
> > not get too much into the negative aspect of this hobby and maybe I should
> > be pointing out who is, in my opinion, doing an honest job.
> >
> > All the best,
> >
> > Adam
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ---- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dave Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "metlist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 9:08 AM
> > Subject: [meteorite-list] curious....
> >
> >
> > > Hi,
> > > Having just read Adam Hupe's firm action for meteorite fraudsters, I was
> > > wondering why no one has commented on it, and does he have some
> > information
> > > he should be sharing with us?  I have never heard either of the
> > Magnificent
> > > Hupes speak in such strong rhetoric!!
> > >
> > > Curiously...
> > > dave
> > >
> > > IMCA #0092
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