Armando Afonso  Wrote:

<Sadly, in Portugal, and in contrast, any ignorant american "enterpreneur" with 
(relatively) much money, can buy for a (relatively) few peanuts a rare 
meteorite from the local ignorant farmers, making a substancial personal 
profit, enough to start a career in piracy, all this as easily as going to shop 
in the local supermarket.>

    Hardly as easy as going to the supermarket.   It required the expenditure 
of several thousand dollars with no guarantee of getting anything when he 
arrived.   A career in piracy???   Maybe you ought to go to a dictionary and 
read a defination of the word.   Pirates are not in the habit of paying 
anything (not even peanuts) for the goods they accumulate.   

<As I am very naive, I imagined,  when I heard the news in 98, that the total 
mass of the meteorite of Ourique was deposited in the university of Lisbon 
(yes, there is more than ignorants, around here), but no, it was saved from our 
3th world ignorance by the hands of an american specialist .....This is a shame 
to my country.>

     The shame is that the University of Lisbon thought so little of the 
meteorite that they collected a few pieces and left the rest to rot.   Anybody 
could have done what Farmer did.   You could have done it.   Have you even 
jumped in a car and gone to Ourique yet?  If not why not, it is a whole lot 
cheaper than a transatlantic flight.   There are undoubtedly still pieces there.

     The even bigger shame is what happened with Tagish Lake.   I think it is 
great that Jim Brook took the Canadian Government for $750,000.   Had they not 
been so secretive about the fall location significantly more material would 
have been collected and the price would have been 1/10 of what it is today.  
Canadian policies drove the price way up and now they have paid the price for 
it.   The sad thing is if another fall happened again they would still do the 
same thing and let most of it sink in the lake.

Eric Olson
http://www.star-bits.com

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Calgary — To scientists, they are priceless clues about the origins of
life, but now, six years after he found some frozen meteorite fragments
that weigh roughly as much as two blocks of butter, a Canadian has
cashed in.
   The price tag: $750,000.
   And as a bonus, the space rocks that landed in Canada and were poised
to go to the United States are staying here.
   “It's been a little tortuous at times,” Jim Brook said yesterday from
his home in Atlin, in the northwest corner of British Columbia, not far
from where the meteorite crashed to Earth.
   “There was no significant interest in Canada for quite a while, and
eventually, we were able to get something lined up, so I'm glad they're
staying,” Mr. Brook said.
   The meteorite fragments will be housed at the University of Alberta
in Edmonton and the Royal Ontario Museum in Toronto.
   For almost seven million years, the space rock travelled at 10
kilometres a second and covered a distance of a half-billion kilometres
before it collided with the Earth's atmosphere in January, 2000.
   The 200-tonne rock was between 25 and 30 kilometres above the ground
when it exploded and emerged as a fireball over parts of British
Columbia and Yukon.
   Several hundred pieces, some as large as footballs, landed on frozen
Tagish Lake, which straddles the B.C. and Yukon boundary.
   Miraculously, about 850 grams of the Tagish Lake meteorite remained
in a pristine state.
   The fragments were frozen and uncontaminated despite a fiery descent
to Earth.
   “This material is extremely rare,” said Sonia Lismer, manager of
movable cultural property with Canadian Heritage, which kicked in more
than $437,000 to keep the meteorite in Canada.
   Mr. Brook, who is a resort operator and has a scientific background,
missed the light show, but a week later, he spotted the dark chunks of
rock while driving his pickup across the lake.
   He knew not to contaminate them by touching them with his bare hands.
   “It's pretty amazing when you consider that they came down right
there on the lake and at that time of year, when there was some snow
around,” he said at the time.
   “The whole thing was a real stroke of luck.”
   He put the rock fragments in his freezer.
   Researchers determined that the meteorite, which is fragile and more
ice-like than rock-hard, was the first to come from a thick band of
asteroids between Mars and Jupiter.
   NASA scientists found previously unseen organic material in the
carbonaceous chondrite fragments. They detected tiny globules of
hydrocarbons, which were formed long before our own solar system and
are the perfect homes for primitive organisms.
   Under Canadian law, meteorites belong to the person who finds them.
Mr. Brook began shopping the fragments around.
   He found buyers in the United States, but Ottawa turned down his
application for an export permit because it aims to keep cultural
property of outstanding significance and national importance at home.
   Last June, the Canadian Cultural Property Export Review Board, an
independent tribunal, gave federally designated Canadian institutions
six months to match the market value of the rocks. If they failed, Mr.
Brook could sell them as he pleased.
   The University of Alberta, the Royal Ontario Museum, Natural
Resources Canada and the Canadian Space Agency began fundraising, but
applied for federal grants to make up a $313,000 gap.
   The grants were approved late last year and announced yesterday.
   “It's going to enable a really wonderful camaraderie of experts
sharing this material for research and it's going to build on the
existing research that has already taken place with NASA and that
research is going to extend globally,” Ms. Lismer said.
   The University of Alberta has 650 grams of the fragments and the ROM
has 200 grams. The ROM will display a 52-gram fragment.
   Christopher Herd, a professor with the department of Earth and
atmospheric sciences at the University of Alberta, said the frozen
fragments will allow researchers to see organic molecules that are
naturally within the meteorite as well as volatile substances — perhaps
extraterrestrial ices.
   “It gives us a snapshot of what was happening when the solar system
formed 4½ billion years ago and it's unlike any other meteorite even of
its own kind,” Dr. Herd said.
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Sadly, in Portugal, and in contrast, any ignorant american "enterpreneur" with (relatively) much money, can buy for a (relatively) few peanuts a rare meteorite from the local ignorant farmers, making a substancial personal profit, enough to start a career in piracy, all this as easily as going to shop in the local supermarket.
As I am very naive, I imagined,  when I heard the news in 98, that the total mass of the meteorite of Ourique was deposited in the university of Lisbon (yes, there is more than ignorants, around here), but no, it was saved from our 3th world ignorance by the hands of an american specialist ( he speaks a bit of spanish, and heard about chondrules, I think). This is a shame to my country.
 
Armando Afonso
 
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