Hi Martin,
hehe. Good idea but I wouldn't wish that kind of problem on anyone. I do get
strange looks from people when at a restaurant or bar when I talk about a
"gram of this or a kilo of that" while with friends even worse when I am on
the cell phone talking to a client. The eavesdroppers usually do not believe
you when you explain you are talking about meteorites. The typical reply is,
"What da heck is a meteor stone, sounds like a code for that funny dust the
kids getted whacked out on!".
Best regards,
Greg
====================
Greg Hupe
The Hupe Collection
NaturesVault (eBay)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
IMCA 3163
====================
----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin Altmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Greg Hupe'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 2:46 PM
Subject: AW: [meteorite-list] Rare Meteorite Cutting Material
Well Greg,
send the lunar dust to your competitors in foreign countries.
If the customs officer will ask them, what this white powder in those zip
bags should be, and they grin and state: "Moon dust, man.",
they will have a lot of fun.
Buckleboo!
Martin
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Greg
Hupe
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 18. Oktober 2006 20:32
An: E.P. Grondine
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: [meteorite-list] Rare Meteorite Cutting Material
Dear Ed and List Members,
Ed wrote:
There's a lot of lunar and Martian dust being created by slicing NWAs, and
it might as well be put to a very good use."
I have cutting dust from several of my planetary meteorites I have cut, ones
either from my own discoveries or from purchases from other people's finds.
I used completely cleaned saws and/or polishing equipment prior to cutting
and/or polishing so the material is as pure as it can be considering the
sawing and polishing contaminants. I also have cutting/polishing material
from just about every rare meteorite (i.e. brachinite, angrite, diogenite,
olivine diogenite, EL3, etc.) I have cut.
If anyone is interested in some quantities of any of this material, please
contact me off list for an inventory of what I have and how many grams of
each you would like. If I sell a large amount to a dealer or collector, I
will not offer the same material in large quantities to others as to not
create a competing environment for the person who first acquired said
material in quantity. I will offer smaller amounts in the glass tubes like I
already do to collectors however if I choose, if I have any of the material
left.
I am also open to suggestions as Ed has stated as to how to best present
this material.
Best regards,
Greg
====================
Greg Hupe
The Hupe Collection
NaturesVault (eBay)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
IMCA 3163
====================
----- Original Message -----
From: "E.P. Grondine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Further precision re "Bessey Specks"
Hi all -
We're ignoring the important issues of display and
presentation here.
I seem to remember that Dean had imbedded the specks
in $100 lucite cubes. Way too expensive for young
people, who sometimes loose things.
While the little glass tubes that Greg Hupe used will
fit well in little hands, I am worried about the
glass, which limits the age of the recipient.
I seem to remember little plastic boxes with
magnifying lenses built into the top of them, but I
don't think these would be very elegant/pretty, and
the tubes are better.
Some kind of flat embossed plastic holder with a
magnifier molded into it might be ideal, say a blank
one on which labels could be printed on a computer and
then applied.
What kind of presentation do you think would be ideal
for Bessey Specks?
There's a lot of lunar and martian dust being created
by slicing NWAs, and it might as well be put to a very
good use.
good hunting,
Ed
--- tracy latimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
For myself, I've always considered a Bessey Speck to
be anything smaller
than a match head or grain of rice. Adequate to
fill in a space in a
collection where larger samples are unavailable or
prohibitively expensive,
but no good for seeing lithologies without a
microscope or 10x lens,
minimum.
Tracy Latimer
>From: Michael L Blood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: MexicoDoug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,Adam Hupe
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>CC: Meteorite List
<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Further precision re
"Bessey Specks"
>Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 13:25:43 -0700
>
>Doug and all,
> This is closer - but to be truly a "Bessey
Speck" a specimen
>must be small enough to VERY, VERY EASILY fit in
the smallest
>sized gelatin capsule (they come in a variety of
sizes) and should
>be difficult or nearly difficult to see for anyone
with less than 20/20
>vision. Also referred to as a "Micro-mini" to
differentiate from what Adam
>referred to as a "micromount" which can be as large
as 1" X 1" !
>"Micromount" is well established as fitting in a 1
X 1 - though this
>has been "challenged" with the considerably larger,
yet still small
>membrane boxes, which I am sure many would consider
"micromount"
>as opposed to "macromount" which are ROUGHLY those
that would
>fit in a 2" X 2" box.
> Back to Bessey Speck - it MUST be VERY
small to qualify,
>and certainly MUCH, MUCH smaller than 1" X 1" !
> I regret I must run off to teaching a
couple of classes - this is
>much more interesting to me than arguments.
> Michael
>
>
>on 10/17/06 12:58 PM, MexicoDoug at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Hello Adam, Listees,
> >
> > Bessey Speck
> > (1) A commercially marketed,
submillimeter-sized, granular or
>irregular,
> > intentionally broken petreus meteoritical
fragment which collectors
>prize as
> > a token possession of an expensive meteorite or
of one with limited
> > distribution, typically used more as a
conversational piece or to
> > satisfactorily fill a primal participatatory
instinct for collection and
> > coat-tailing on the "wow-effect" of possession
of the parent specimen.
> > Compare to "Particle", "Stardust", "Crumb",
"Micro" and "Micromount".
> > (2) Any, almost microscopic-sized particle
originating from a larger
>(macro)
> > meteorite specimen.
> >
> > Note, I'm not disagreeing with Adam' response to
Ed in the sense that
>the
> > term micromount is a term in the toolbox,
although I think the word
>particle
> > is more descriptive for most of our uses. I am
agreeing with Michael
>Blood
> > that the term Bessey Speck has a place.
> >
> > The questionably honorific term "Bessey Speck"
seems like a much more
> > descriptive term to me than micromount for many
collectors. To me a
> > "micromount" implies some sort of serious grand
plan of scientific
> > investigation or illustration of specific
attributes. Size alone
>doesn't
> > count, as much as purpose. For example,
Stardust particles are not
> > micromounts unless prepared that way despite
Adam's definition, and they
>are
> > not Bessey Specks, though micro-Besseyspeckies
are certainly
>hypothetically
> > possible.
> >
> > "Bessey Speck" consideres that not all particles
commercially sold in
>venues
> > like eBay find scientific use regardless of who
is doing the selling.
>That's
> > where Bessey Speck is a unique and interesting
term. Adam's definition
> > clearly has the weighted meaning toward a
usually higher "scientific"
>use in
> > observing material properties: appreciation with
binocular microscope,
> > better developed crystals, etc... The short
comment in that definition
> > "obtaining for less," especially given the
profit and pleasure motives
> > between buyers and sellers, really seems quite
out of place to me.
>Adam's
> > post wasn't clear, at least for me, if he
disagreed with the use of the
>term
> > Bessey Speck or just was offering Ed an
alternate (which I definitely
>agree
> > with Adam in doing).
> >
> > I am not comfortable with the term micromount
being more properly used
>for
> > specimens purposefully shattered into small bits
with a sledge for the
> > unadulterated and pure pleasure of collectors
filling holes in their
> > collections, a majority of which are not "better
appreciating" their
>samples
> > in a binocular microscope which many don't have
nor have too much
>motivation
> > to get.
> >
> > Didn't "Bessey Speck" usage start with Dean's
Mars rock sales many years
> > before most of our times? I am trying to
remember Kevin Kitchinka's
> > comments in "The Art of Meteorite Collecting"
(don't have handy here)
>where
> > an explanation of the etymology of this colorful
term was published and
>my
> > Mars' comment references. Bessey Specks,
though, gets the point across
>much
> > better for me! It's ll in the intended use and
market. While I don'
>think
> > a "Micromount" is an appropiate common sense
description for something
>not
> > carefully prepared and mounted to exhibit some
characteristic, heck - if
> > their not even carefully mounted...
> >
> > So, unless Dean objects to being immortalized in
this fashion, that is
>my 2
> > centavos.
> > Doug
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Adam Hupe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 2:53 PM
> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re: "Bessey
Specks"
> >
> >
> > The term micromount has been used for decades to
describe this type of
> > specimen.
> >
> > Micromount:
> >
> > Micromount is term used by mineral collectors
and rockhounds to describe
> > mineral specimens that are best appreciated
using a binocular
>microscope.
> > Micromount specimen collecting has a number of
advantages, specimens
>take up
> > less space, rare minerals can be obtained for
less and smaller crystals
>are
> > more perfectly developed.
> >
> >
> > All the best,
> >
> > Adam
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "E.P. Grondine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 7:07 AM
> > Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: "Bessey Specks"
> >
> >
> >> Hi Michael, list -
> >>
> >> I see you list your Bessey Specks as "frags".
> >>
> >> (Your price of $25 seems very fair for Nakla
specks,
> >> but I already picked up Mars Bessey Specks for
> >> childrens' gifts at Christmas from Hupe.)
> >>
> >> Clearly, there is a need for a more elegant
term than
> >> "Bessey Specks" for these. Does anybody have
any
> >> proposals? If not, is Dean(?-stroke damage)
Bessey
> >> going to be immortalized by having these
formally
> >> named after him?
> >>
> >> Hupe also sent the Bessey specks in small tubes
> >> suitable for young hands, along with 1 nice
pair of
> >> cards (BTW I need a second pair of cards for
the
> >> second set of tubes, Greg), instead of gelatin
> >> capsules.
> >>
> >> Perhaps microscope slides would be more
suitable for
> >> adult use, but as I don't remember any
discussion of
> >> these on the list, I'm bringing it up now.
> >>
> >> good hunting -
> >> Ed
> >>
> >> --- Michael L Blood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Greetings fellow space treasure lovers,
> >>> This post includes a fabulous, large
iron
> >>> and an entire new
> >>> page of historic calls.
> >>>
> >>> FIRST:
> >>> A beautiful 6.5 Kg / 14.3 Lb S-A Shrapnel
piece that
> >>> appears for all
> >>> the world to be an oriented shield on one side
and a
> >>> flat, oriented
> >>> specimen heading to the left in a downward
angle on
> >>> the other side.
> >>> This piece includes an custom build
display
> >>> stand to facilitate
> >>> a very impressive display of its virtues.
> >>> If no one snaps this up on sale it
will go
> >>> into my catalog
> >>> at $3,250- but the first to contact me will
take it
> >>> in this sale for 2,750-
> >>> (price includes shipping and insurance inside
the
> >>> US)
> >>> This spectacular piece can be seen
at:
> >>>
> >>>
http://community.webshots.com/album/554884324rEfSPa
> >>>
> >>> SECOND:
> >>> I have set up an entire page dedicated to
hammers
> >>> meteorites that have
> >>> struck man made objects, animals or humans.
This is
> >>> a collection of the
> >>> most impressive of all the recorded meteorite
falls
> >>> in history. I have 35
> >>> different recorded falls (including Bessey
Specks of
> >>> Sylacauga, Yurtuk and
> >>> Burnwell). About half of the falls can also be
found
> >>> elsewhere with diligent
> >>> searching and you will find my prices are as
low
> >>> as anyone's. The others
> >>> cannot be had anywhere else. They are priced
> >>> according to cost. This page
> >>> is
> >>> worth checking out even if you don't want to
buy
> >>> anything it was 5 years
> >>> in the making and includes historical photos,
links,
> >>> etc. See at the URL
> >>> below:
> >>>
> >>>
http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/Hammers.html
> >>>
> >>> Pieces on the Hammer page will be marked
"SOLD" as
> >>> orders come in
> >>> so, if it is still listed when you email me,
it is
> >>> available.
> >>>
> >>> PayPal preferred (sent to this email
> >>> address) Visa/Mastercard
> >>> and personal checks gladly accepted.
> >>> Happy Hunting! Michael
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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