Hello List,
I too am sorry to read about Ruben's recent decision. He, Mike Miller, and Sonny have all made great contributions to the meteorite community. It's too bad that some "certain personalities" played a role in Ruben deciding to give up meteorite hunting.

Over the past several years I too have noticed some members of our loosely knitted group try to exert influence on meteorite hunters to do things "their" way. This whole issue of provisional names, in my opinion, is not necessary for everyone. If someone, a few people, or a group of people want to follow this convension, good for them. That doesn't mean, however, that every one must do it. This also doesn't mean that the "maverick" hunters are any less diligent in recording their finds and keeping good and accurate records to be submitted to the Nom. Comm. at the proper time.

There are some California meteorite hunters who I consider good friends and, as best as I can tell, aren't involved in this controversy. Let's not lump every one from California, or those who hunt in California, together. Many of them go about their business quietly without any publicity stunts or chest pounding. In fact, you have to search out the facts about these people to find out about their accomplishments because they generally are pretty quiet about their work.

Keeping ones active find sights a secret is important to meteorite hunters. Anyone can tell you that as soon as a new meteorite is announced (particularly here in the Western USA) meteorite hunters start showing up in droves. Now before anyone points a finger at me, I'll admit I've done the same thing. I've found meteorites in places where someone else found them first. Once the location becomes a matter of public record, anyone can go right to the spot providing the correct location is recorded. Lucerne Dry Lake is a good example, as is Franconia.

When meteorite hunter has invested lots of time and money to locate meteorites in a new location, I believe he (she) has a right to protect their investment by keeping the location quiet until they can finish their work there. I know there is a level of confidence that exists with many of the people on the academic and scientific side of the process, but I know that there have been instances where some persistent people have been able to acquire some locations that should have been kept confidential.

In closing, I want to let you all know that like Ruben, I have lost much of my enthusiasm for meteorite hunting and meteorites in general. I didn't attend the Tucson Show this past February which was just the second time in twenty years I haven't gone. It might just be me, or it might just be the way everything changes with time, but "things" have changed, in my opinion, and most of the changes haven't been for the better. The ongoing debate about who can hunt where, government regulations that are almost impossible to find in print and the unanswered questions about who actually owns meteorites found on Public Land has complicated things to the point of frustration for many people. It's no wonder that people are becoming disenchanted and finding something else to do with their spare time.

Sorry about the long post,

John

At 11:16 AM 4/11/2007, Gerald Flaherty wrote:
Ruben, I'm sorry to hear about your decision and for the reasons behind it. I have enjoyed reading about your exploits through the List over the years.
Good luck in any endeavor you choose to pursue.
Jerry Flaherty
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruben Garcia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 12:51 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] To whom it may concern........


Hi all,

It is with sadness and regret that I am writing today.
I've been thinking about this for some time now, and
today I have made my final decision. Let me explain.

Due to certain personalities in this hobby I have
grown more and more disenchanted with meteorites,
meteorite collecting and meteorite hunting.

Also, in February I was told by my dermatologist to
stay out of the sun. This is because of non-cancerous
lesions that have appeared on my face and hands over
the last year. According to him my attempts at
covering up are not working. Since I am allergic to
sun block I am pretty much out of luck.

I've always said that when this hobby ceased being fun
I'd cease doing it. I'm done.

To make a long story short, I have already taken down
my website and will remove myself from this forum
a.s.a.p. I will no longer write about meteorites or
meteorite hunting. I am walking away from all the
trouble and trouble makers. It's just not worth it.
Unfortunately, I'll also leave behind the fun and
excitement that I used to have when finding meteorites
with my son, or teaching a newbie.

I will honor any deals or agreements regarding
meteorites that I've made in the past.

Don't feel sorry for me or my son though. I'm sure
that we'll start doing all the things normal Fathers
and Sons do. Diamondbacks and Suns games here we come!

Thanks to everyone that helped make the last 9 years
enjoyable.

Goodbye,

Ruben Garcia



Ruben Garcia
Phoenix, Arizona
http://www.mr-meteorite.com



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