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1. Re: Meteorites on Mars (Robert Woolard)
2. Could an impact crater on a meteorite survive passage to
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3. Ad- Glorieta Pallasite/Siderite- Campos and Canyon D's both
with Holes-Franconia (Ruben Garcia)
4. Re: Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - July 18, 2007
(Dave Carothers)
5. Thank you all.....Everything has been sold! (Ruben Garcia)
6. sudbury minerals (Dave Harris)
7. Re: Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - July 18, 2007
(Anita D. Westlake)
8. Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - July 18, 2007
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9. Re: Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - July 18, 2007
(Mark Crawford)
10. Fw: Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - July 18, 2007
(Jose Campos)
11. Re: Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - July 18, 2007
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12. Fw: Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - July 18, 2007
(Mike Fowler)
13. Re: 'Iridium Flares' (Jerry Flaherty)
14. Re: 'Iridium Flares' (Mark Crawford)
15. Fw: Fw: Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - July 18, 2007
(Jose Campos)
16. Re: Fw: Fw: Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - July 18,
2007 (JKGwilliam)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 09:09:09 -0700 (PDT)
From: Robert Woolard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites on Mars
To: [email protected]
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Thanks, Bernd for filling us in on the rest of the
article. Now, IF ONLY we could all go there and see if
their predictions were right! ;-)
Best wishes,
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 12:34:15 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [meteorite-list] Could an impact crater on a meteorite
survive passage to earth?
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In a message dated 7/18/2007 9:41:54 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Stimpy, one of the rocks seen at Mars Pathfinder's landing site, bears an
obvious,
circular depression (arrowed) that some researchers believe to be an
impact
crater. Small meteorites may lie in abundance across the Martian
landscape.
A recent thread raises the possibility of a meteorite on Mars with an
impact
crater.
I was wondering if this evidence could be found on earth meteorites or
would
the passage to earth destroy the features of an impact.
I have a 5+ Kilo NWA unclassified that exhibits a crater looking feature.
The crater is about 3cm wide with slightly raised edges and filled with a
material that is completely different to all other portions of the main
mass I
have cut into. This material is highly shocked embedded into the main
mass. I
have cut the feature down the middle an examined it at high
magnification.
The fist guess to the origins of such a feature would obviously be a
weathered out inclusion. It might be just that but it looks enough like
a mini
impact crater to be interesting.
Email me if you want some pictures. I was thinking of doing a Micro
Visions
article on it but I didn't want to look like an idiot if it is not
possible
for my hole in a rock to be from impact.
One further observation that supports an impact, on other portions of
this
meteorite there are rather large areas of dark colored regolith breccia.
Or
at least what looks like it. It is a fine powder hardened into 50mm and
larger dark patches. I can get detailed micrographs of the details
between
barred chondrules but I can't get close enough to bring out the details
of this
fine structure. Like brown baby powder hardened with no continuity of
structure within the areas. Certainly no chondrule structure. Think
sand only a lot
smaller.
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 09:44:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ruben Garcia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [meteorite-list] Ad- Glorieta Pallasite/Siderite- Campos and
Canyon D's both with Holes-Franconia
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Hi all,
Its been a few months since I last posted here. I have
been out(again)doing what I love to do, which is hunt
meteorites. I've been documenting most hunts on video
in order to post (some of them) on you tube later. I
have made a lot of good finds recently (many on
camera) and so I am making room for some of them by
selling off some of my collection.
If you don't see what you are looking for I have more
of each that I didn't have time to photograph and
list.
Link to Glorieta Meteorites $10-$15 per gram!
http://www.mr-meteorite.com/glorieta4sale.htm
Link to Canyon Diablo Meteorites with Hole
http://www.mr-meteorite.com/canyondiablo4sale.htm
Link to Campo Meteorites with Hole
http://www.mr-meteorite.com/campowhole4sale.htm
Link to Franconia Meteorite
http://www.mr-meteorite.com/franconia4sale.htm
I decided to list on ebay what I don't sell on the
met-list. I'll probably start ebay tomorrow afternoon.
I'll pay freight on all sold on the met-list.
Email me with any questions!
Ruben Garcia
Phoenix, Arizona
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 15:47:17 -0400
From: "Dave Carothers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day -
July 18, 2007
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WOW!!!!! Very Nice.
Dave
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 13:09:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ruben Garcia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [meteorite-list] Thank you all.....Everything has been sold!
To: [email protected]
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Hi All,
I just returned to check my email after leaving for a
couple of hours. Thank you all.....Everything has
been sold!
Ruben Garcia
Phoenix, Arizona
http://www.mr-meteorite.com
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 21:20:04 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time)
From: "Dave Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [meteorite-list] sudbury minerals
To: "metlist" <[email protected]>
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Hi
Can anyone tell me what, if any, is the association between those huge
Sudbury garnets and the impact event at that location?
Sorry for such a vague question!
Ciao!
Dave
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 16:42:58 -0400
From: "Anita D. Westlake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day -
July 18, 2007
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Wow! That sure is one showy little meteorite! I think it may be my
favorite
of the whole year.
Anita
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Message: 8
Date: 18 Jul 2007 21:19:11 UT
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Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - July
18, 2007
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http://www.spacerocksinc.com/July_18_2007.html
Anita enthusiastically wrote:
Wow! That sure is one showy little meteorite!
I think it may be my favorite of the whole year.
.. as did Dave Carothers: "WOW!!!!! Very Nice."
Yes, that's a very intriguing new iron meteorite. I can hardly wait for
the
classification results - surely something "anomalous" and/or "ungrouped,"
maybe even artificially "reheated" and/or "severely disturbed and
shocked!"
I was lucky enough to acquire a small 4.8-gram slice today that Mirko
Graul
offered on EBay per "Buy It Now" option.
Best Santa F?
regards,
Bernd
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 22:36:27 +0100
From: Mark Crawford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day -
July 18, 2007
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I was also lucky enough to buy a small piece from Mirko.
I've never seen anything like it, I'd love suggestions as to what it's
classification or history might be...?
Mark
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.spacerocksinc.com/July_18_2007.html
Anita enthusiastically wrote:
Wow! That sure is one showy little meteorite!
I think it may be my favorite of the whole year.
.. as did Dave Carothers: "WOW!!!!! Very Nice."
Yes, that's a very intriguing new iron meteorite. I can hardly wait for
the
classification results - surely something "anomalous" and/or "ungrouped,"
maybe even artificially "reheated" and/or "severely disturbed and
shocked!"
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 22:43:07 +0100
From: "Jose Campos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [meteorite-list] Fw: Rocks From Space Picture of the Day -
July 18, 2007
To: "Meteorite List" <[email protected]>
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Hi " Spacerocksinc ", Anita and List:
Nice meteorite, nice picture! However, the captation should read:
Senhor , not Sen?r... and Fazenda, not Hacienda.
In Brasil, they speak/write Portuguese, not Spanish.
Jos? Campos
Portugal
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18,2007
Wow! That sure is one showy little meteorite! I think it may be my
favorite
of the whole year.
Anita
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 17:50:53 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day -
July 18, 2007
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In a message dated 7/18/2007 3:36:51 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I was also lucky enough to buy a small piece from Mirko.
I've never seen anything like it, I'd love suggestions as to what it's
classification or history might be...?
Mark
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.spacerocksinc.com/July_18_2007.html
Anita enthusiastically wrote:
Wow! That sure is one showy little meteorite!
I think it may be my favorite of the whole year.
.. as did Dave Carothers: "WOW!!!!! Very Nice."
Yes, that's a very intriguing new iron meteorite. I can hardly wait for
the
classification results - surely something "anomalous" and/or "ungrouped,"
maybe even artificially "reheated" and/or "severely disturbed and
shocked!"
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I agree, I have never seen anything like it either.
It is presently being studied and classified by the University of Arizona
in
Tucson. And you can read more about it and more pictures on Svend's site:
_http://www.niger-meteorite-recon.de/en/meteoriten_verkauf.htm_
(http://www.niger-meteorite-recon.de/en/meteoriten_verkauf.htm)
And if you are anxious to have your own slice to hold and admire, you will
just have to wait a bit longer. The remaining mass (No, not the 200 kilos,
the
finder has absolutely refused to sell that, just what Svend had!) is
getting
cut/polished/etched in Germany before traveling to Colorado. I might even
have it for the September Show.
Of course, I am taking "reservations"!
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 16:59:36 -0500
From: Mike Fowler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [meteorite-list] Fw: Rocks From Space Picture of the Day -
July 18, 2007
To: [email protected]
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Hi " Spacerocksinc ", Anita and List:
Nice meteorite, nice picture! However, the captation should read:
Senhor , not Sen?r... and Fazenda, not Hacienda.
In Brasil, they speak/write Portuguese, not Spanish.
Jos? Campos
Portugal
Senor and Hacienda are Spanish words that have made it into the
English Language. Since the caption was written in English, I don't
see a problem with the usage, However, not too many English speakers
would know what a Fazenda is!
Of course technically speaking you are correct, and they do speak
Portuguese in Brazil, although not the same Portuguese they speak in
Portugal.
Sincerely,
Mike Fowler
Chicago
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 19:09:51 -0500
From: "Jerry Flaherty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 'Iridium Flares'
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "kevin decker"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [email protected]
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Larry, Kevin and List, why are these reflections called "iridium flares"?
Is
the surface reflecting the sunlight an iridium alloy?
Jerry Flaherty
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Hi Kevin:
The Heavens Above website (www.heavens-above.com) lets you predict the
times and locations of Iridium flares. With 66 satellites (3 groups with
similar orbits), I would doubt that it was the same satellite each time.
The site gives you all the info about each flare, but. You can go "back in
time" to find out what you saw (only 48 hours). You need to input your
location (they have a large list of cities) to choose from.
Yes, it is strictly location and timing. Its all done with mirrors! Think
of the old heliographs that used mirrors and the sun to communicate long
distances (early cell phones). You have to be in the right place (a few
kilometers of the path) and the satellite has to be in the sunlight (in
its orbit), for you to see a flare. I think that each satellite has three
large (more than a meter square) antennas that are highly reflective and
so are really good mirrors for creating the flares if you are in the right
location.
I hope this helps.
Larry
On Tue, July 17, 2007 8:28 pm, kevin decker wrote:
Hello List,
I've a question about Iridium Flares,For the past 3 nights I've noticed
a satelite passing overhead that "flares" at the same spot in the night
sky.It's general heading is from N,N.W. to S,S.E,Tonight,there was one
going the opposite way,in that same spot that "flared" exactly like the
one going the other way.How is that possible?Is it my relative position
to the satelite?....Best Regards..
Kevin W.L.Decker
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Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 00:19:49 +0100
From: Mark Crawford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 'Iridium Flares'
To: Jerry Flaherty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Jerry,
Iridium was originally envisaged as an array of 77 communication
satellites - 77 being the atomic number of Iridium. Think of earth as
the nucleus, the satellites as the electrons, in the standard high
school model of the atom.
In fact it's actually around 66 satellites, but "Terbium" doesn't have
quite the same cachet. More at the Wiki here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iridium_%28satellite%29
Marko
Jerry Flaherty wrote:
Larry, Kevin and List, why are these reflections called "iridium
flares"? Is the surface reflecting the sunlight an iridium alloy?
Jerry Flaherty
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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 00:29:49 +0100
From: "Jose Campos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [meteorite-list] Fw: Fw: Rocks From Space Picture of the Day
- July 18, 2007
To: "Meteorite List" <[email protected]>
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Hi Mike,
I see what you mean . No problems here.
We both read the same captation on the brasilian meteorite - with a
different mind and culture. That's understandable.
However, both here in Portugal and in Brasil, we speak and write the SAME
language - not as you said.
In fact, there is, for many years, an oficial agreement between Portugal
and Brasil on the rules for the portuguese language, regarding its
writting,
accents, etc.
But I think I know what you mean: It's more like, for instance the english
spoken in, say, Australia, the UK or the USA.
But that is what makes any language richer.
Best wishes, melhores cumprimentos,
Jos? Campos
Portugal
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Cc: "Mike Fowler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:59 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Fw: Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - July
18,2007
Hi " Spacerocksinc ", Anita and List:
Nice meteorite, nice picture! However, the captation should read:
Senhor , not Sen?r... and Fazenda, not Hacienda.
In Brasil, they speak/write Portuguese, not Spanish.
Jos? Campos
Portugal
Senor and Hacienda are Spanish words that have made it into the
English Language. Since the caption was written in English, I don't
see a problem with the usage, However, not too many English speakers
would know what a Fazenda is!
Of course technically speaking you are correct, and they do speak
Portuguese in Brazil, although not the same Portuguese they speak in
Portugal.
Sincerely,
Mike Fowler
Chicago
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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 16:59:44 -0700
From: JKGwilliam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: Fw: Rocks From Space Picture of the
Day - July 18, 2007
To: "Jose Campos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Meteorite List"
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Hello All,
I think you will all agree that it doesn't matter
what language is used to describe this meteorite
since it falls into the catagory of " one picture
is worth a thousand words." This is a fantastic
meteorite and it will be exciting to see what the classification results
are.
Best,
John Gwilliam
At 04:29 PM 7/18/2007, Jose Campos wrote:
Hi Mike,
I see what you mean . No problems here.
We both read the same captation on the brasilian
meteorite - with a different mind and culture. That's understandable.
However, both here in Portugal and in Brasil, we
speak and write the SAME language - not as you said.
In fact, there is, for many years, an oficial
agreement between Portugal and Brasil on the
rules for the portuguese language, regarding its writting, accents, etc.
But I think I know what you mean: It's more
like, for instance the english spoken in, say, Australia, the UK or the
USA.
But that is what makes any language richer.
Best wishes, melhores cumprimentos,
Jos? Campos
Portugal
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Fowler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Cc: "Mike Fowler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:59 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Fw: Rocks From Space
Picture of the Day - July 18,2007
Hi " Spacerocksinc ", Anita and List:
Nice meteorite, nice picture! However, the captation should read:
Senhor , not Sen?r... and Fazenda, not Hacienda.
In Brasil, they speak/write Portuguese, not Spanish.
Jos? Campos
Portugal
Senor and Hacienda are Spanish words that have made it into the
English Language. Since the caption was written in English, I don't
see a problem with the usage, However, not too many English speakers
would know what a Fazenda is!
Of course technically speaking you are correct, and they do speak
Portuguese in Brazil, although not the same Portuguese they speak in
Portugal.
Sincerely,
Mike Fowler
Chicago
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