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1. Shocked Quartz Found at Upheaval Dome, Utah (Paul)
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3. AD: One cent ebay sale ending. (Michael Farmer)
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6. Re: Chiang Khan differences of opinion (Michael L Blood)
7. Shocked Quartz Found at Upheaval Dome, Utah (Paul)
8. Re: Tunguska solved, dilithium found. (tracy latimer)
9. NWA 869 Cabochons (Gary K. Foote)
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11. WG: Chiang Khan differences of opinion (Martin Altmann)
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Subject: [meteorite-list] Shocked Quartz Found at Upheaval Dome, Utah
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Buchner, E., and T. Kenkmann, 2008, Upheaval
Dome, Utah, USA: Impact origin confirmed.
Geology. vol.36, no. 3, pp. 227-230. In part,
this abstract stated: âIn this study, we
document, for the first time, shocked quartz
grains from this crater in sandstones of the
Jurassic Kayenta Formation. The investigated
grains contain multiple sets of decorated planar
deformation features. ... The shocked quartz
grains were found in the periphery of the
central uplift in the northeastern sector of the
crater, which most likely represents the cross
range crater sector.â
http://www.gsajournals.org/perlserv/?request=get-abstract&doi=10.1130%2FG24287A.1
Yours, Paul
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really makes me wonder how much shocked quartz
could be found as "background". I am not saying
that about this study, but from a curiosity.
Matt
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Subject: [meteorite-list] Shocked Quartz Found at Upheaval Dome, Utah
Buchner, E., and T. Kenkmann, 2008, Upheaval
Dome, Utah, USA: Impact origin confirmed.
Geology. vol.36, no. 3, pp. 227-230. In part,
this abstract stated: âIn this study, we
document, for the first time, shocked quartz
grains from this crater in sandstones of the
Jurassic Kayenta Formation. The investigated
grains contain multiple sets of decorated planar
deformation features. ... The shocked quartz
grains were found in the periphery of the
central uplift in the northeastern sector of the
crater, which most likely represents the cross
range crater sector.â
http://www.gsajournals.org/perlserv/?request=get-abstract&doi=10.1130%2FG24287A.1
Yours, Paul
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Subject: [meteorite-list] AD: One cent ebay sale ending.
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http://www.meteorite.com/farmer/
See the link above, that Paul Harris was kind enough
to work on for me, linking all of my auctions from
both of my ebay usernames.
I have some wonderful pieces ending this week,
oriented Sikhote-Alin, multi-kilo Toluca, 300 gram
sphere, so many goodies, take a look, many are still
at one cent.
Michael Farmer
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Matt - In a study we did several years ago, we found one shocked quartz
grain per 7000-12000 grains in various sedimentary rocks and glacial
tillites.
Ted
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> really makes me wonder how much shocked
quartz could be found as "background".
> I am not saying that about this study, but from a curiosity.
>
> Matt
> ----------------------
> Matt Morgan
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> Lakewood, CO 80215 USA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 09:35:10
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> Subject: [meteorite-list] Shocked Quartz Found at Upheaval Dome, Utah
>
>
> Buchner, E., and T. Kenkmann, 2008, Upheaval Dome, Utah, USA:
Impact origin
> confirmed. Geology. vol.36, no. 3, pp. 227-230.
In part, this abstract
> stated:
³In this study, we document, for the first time, shocked
quartz
> grains from this crater in sandstones of the
Jurassic Kayenta Formation. The
> investigated grains
contain multiple sets of decorated planar deformation
>
features. ... The shocked quartz grains were found in
the periphery of the
> central uplift in the northeastern
sector of the crater, which most likely
> represents the
cross range crater
> sector.²
http://www.gsajournals.org/perlserv/?request=get-abstract&doi=10.113
> 0%2FG24287A.1
Yours,
Paul H.
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Subject: [meteorite-list] AD - ebay: 20 auction:
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Hello All,
I have 20 auctions ending in about one day:
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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Chiang Khan differences of opinion
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The Meteoritical Bulletin obviously feels differently, as do the
Primary field collectors - and so do I.
Best wishes, Michael
on 3/24/08 5:07 AM, Martin Altmann at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Well, technically, I'd say,
> as long as the 2-fall-hypothesis isn't established, and it doesn't happen
> that often, that within short time in the same place two meteorite falls,
> we have to count all pieces found there to Chiang Khan.
> Best,
> Martin
>
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Michael L Blood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Gesendet: Montag, 24. März 2008 04:49
> An: Martin Altmann; Meteorite List
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Chiang Khan differences of opinion
>
> Hi Martin,
> To me, the important question is how much of this material is
> The same fall.
> Michael
>
> on 3/23/08 4:41 PM, Martin Altmann at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> In fact, there is also an inconsistency in the last Catalogue of
> Meteorites
>> itself.
>> In the header of the entry the tkw of Chiang Khan is listed as 367g
>> but in the distribution of the specimens in the same entry are listed
> pieces
>> in a total weight of 3279grams. (Largest amount at UCLA with 2588.4g
> there,
>> and the piece of 800g in the University of Bangkok isn't mentioned).
>> So together with the Ex-Haag-piece and Oliver's finds - he's moving at the
>> moment, will ask him as soon as he has an Internet access again, how many
>> grams in total - we have at least 6kg.
>>
>> Best!
>> Martin
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von
> Michael
>> L Blood
>> Gesendet: Montag, 24. März 2008 00:25
>> An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Martin Altmann;
>> Meteorite List
>> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Chiang Khan differences of opinion
>>
>> Hi Dave & all,
>> Regarding your post below....
>> My information regarding TKW of the Chiang-Khan fall is from
>> The primary finder and author of the web page cited by Martin Altmann:
>>
>> http://www.meteorite-oliver.com/About_Chiang_Khan/about_chiang_khan.html
>>
>> Of particular interest is the comment therein:
>>
>> " Nobody was able anymore to give precise indications as to the exact
> date
>> of the event. Some 20 years ago it was, so they say, in the month of
>> November, without doubt - that's what I was told in the villages of the
>> strewn field.
>> Whatever it was that happened then - one is led to presume a second
>> meteorite fall on the same day or on the day after. According to recent
>> research (isotope analysis), the two large specimens, which are in
> private
>> Collection and in Chulalongkorn University, Bangkok, do not originate
> from
>> the Chiang-Khan fall. They are believed to have been transported into
>> Thailand from Laos. Two small pieces from Thailand were analyzed, one is
> H4
>> tending to H5; one was determined to be H5 in Japan, whereas the large
>> pieces are H6. Most of all, the noble gas contents of the large specimens
>> differ extremely from those of the Chiang-Khan pieces!"
>>
>> Please note that this is also weighted by the comments by Jeff
>> Grossman Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 11:58 PM
>> To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] More on Chiang Khan
>>
>> "The Meteoritical Bulletin does publish
>> announcements of new masses when they are
>> significant. Submit the report to the
>> editor. You will need good evidence that the
>> additional mass is really part of same fall."
>>
>> Please also note that I have every reason to believe that both Bob
>> Haag and Matt Morgan believe the piece in reference is part of the
>> Chiang-Khan fall. However, this believe might be weighted against
>> The above comments (and I acknowledge I could be wrong on this).
>> I recognized your reference of source for purchase as "a dealer"
> was
>> Almost certainly intended to protect me from any perception of shenanigans
>> In this matter - and I thank you for your intent. However, I was fully
> aware
>> Of all of the above comments and felt confident the major finder and the
>> Meteoritical Bulletin were correct in their assessment of related falls,
>> just as I am confident there is no intention to deceive, whatsoever, on
> the
>> part of Bob Haag or Matt Morgan and that their belief in the authenticity
> of
>> the stone mentioned is both sincere and reasonable. People will have to
>> decide for themselves whom is correct and whom is in error. I sided with
> the
>> primary finders and the Meteoritical Bulletin. I see no way to resolve
> this
>> without individually typing the stone, but even that, like the Baygoria
>> cluster.... Er... controversy .... will not be conclusive if this (other?)
>> fall was also submitted and originally included as part of the Chiang-Khan
>> fall, anyway - but the Meteoritical Bulletin does not see it as such.
>> Sincerely, Michael Blood
>>
>>
>> on 3/22/08 6:39 PM, Dave Gheesling at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>>> Matt & List,
>>>
>>> First, Matt, thanks for the info and congrats on having that terrific
>>> specimen in your already spectacular collection...simply superb.
>>>
>>> This prompts a second question, which is "Why is there not a means to
>>> 'officially' correct the record when a fall or find turns out to have a
>>> dramatically different TKW at some point after the formal classification
>> has
>>> cleared?" I'm not talking about confusion in the early stages of mining
> a
>>> strewn field, but rather about falls and/or finds where in many cases
>>> decades have passed since the initial discoveries and, for all intents
> and
>>> purposes, everything that will ever be found has been found (a slippery
>>> slope of a generalization, but hopefully this makes sense). There are
>> many,
>>> many such examples, and I'll post a link to only one below (read Remarks
>> in
>>> my Djermaia listing):
>>>
>>> http://www.fallingrocks.com/Collections/Djermaia.htm
>>>
>>> I purchased my Chiang-Khan from a dealer without much research, which was
>>> completely my responsibility, to be clear. That said, it was marketed as
>>> representing something approaching 5% of the recovered material from that
>>> fall (which, again, is officially recorded as 367 grams when we know that
>>> there is one stone of almost twice that size and speculation on the list
>> is
>>> that the TKW is actually likely to be near 7 kilograms). We had some
>> banter
>>> about the finer points of orientation a couple of weeks ago and how that
>> has
>>> an impact in the marketplace, and it seems to me that this is at least as
>>> large an issue. And, forgetting the market altogether, shouldn't there
>>> perhaps be a more focused effort to "get the record straight" for the
>>> benefit of history? I'm probably missing something out of ignorance
>> here...
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance for thoughts and comments...always trying to learn
>>> something new.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>
>>
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Dear Ted, What is the citation for this study?
(Where was it published?) Ted Bunch on Mon March
24 wrote: âMatt - In a study we did several
years ago, we found one shocked quartz grain per
7000-12000 grains in various sedimentary rocks
and glacial tillites.â On 3/24/08 9:51 AM,
"mmorgan at mhmeteorites.com" asked: âreally
makes me wonder how much shocked quartz could be
found as "background".â Yours, Paul
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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tunguska solved, dilithium found.
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Are we sure this article didn't make its first appearance in The Onion?
Tracy Latimer
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> Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 11:09:46 -0500
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Tunguska solved, dilithium found.
>
>
http://newsfromrussia.com/science/mysteries/24-03-2008/104631-tunguska_meteorite-0
>
> Aliens downed Tunguska meteorite to save Earth
> Front page / Science / Mysteries
>
> Aliens downed Tunguska meteorite to protect
our planet from devastation, stated
> Russian scientist Yuriy Lavbin. He showed 10
quartz crystals that he found at
> the place of the meteorites crash. Several of the crystals have holes in
> between, so they can be united in a chain.
>
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Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA 869 Cabochons
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Hello Listoids,
I have a fairly simple project in mind that requires
the precision cutting and polishing of three
separate, rectangular cabs. Width of each would be
about 4mm. Length of the long one would be about
3cm and the two shorter ones would be 1cm each.
Anyone with the skill and tools to do this please
email me offlist. Put the word 'meteorite' in the
topic to trigger my email color filters.
Thanks,
Gary in VT
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Message: 10
Heres one worth reading through the description.
The meteorite was still hot the day after it fell.
I guess if they cant even spell meteorite then
thats a sign they sure dont know what one is.
Thanks to the fact that the cattle need to be
fed this gem becomes available to you.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Brown-Iron-Metorite-fell-on-Clermont-County-Ohio-1974_W0QQitemZ360034554553QQihZ023QQcategoryZ3239QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQ_trksidZp1638.m118.l1247QQcmdZViewItem
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How about this one?!!!!!???
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Message: 11
Then, supposedly only, they would have 2 entries, Chiang Khan (a) & Chiang
Khan (b) ?
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Michael L Blood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gesendet: Montag, 24. März 2008 19:29
An: Martin Altmann; Meteorite List
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Chiang Khan differences of opinion
The Meteoritical Bulletin obviously feels differently, as do the
Primary field collectors - and so do I.
Best wishes, Michael
on 3/24/08 5:07 AM, Martin Altmann at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Well, technically, I'd say,
> as long as the 2-fall-hypothesis isn't established, and it doesn't happen
> that often, that within short time in the same place two meteorite falls,
> we have to count all pieces found there to Chiang Khan.
> Best,
> Martin
>
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Michael L Blood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Gesendet: Montag, 24. März 2008 04:49
> An: Martin Altmann; Meteorite List
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Chiang Khan differences of opinion
>
> Hi Martin,
> To me, the important question is how much of this material is
> The same fall.
> Michael
>
> on 3/23/08 4:41 PM, Martin Altmann at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> In fact, there is also an inconsistency in the last Catalogue of
> Meteorites
>> itself.
>> In the header of the entry the tkw of Chiang Khan is listed as 367g
>> but in the distribution of the specimens in the same entry are listed
> pieces
>> in a total weight of 3279grams. (Largest amount at UCLA with 2588.4g
> there,
>> and the piece of 800g in the University of Bangkok isn't mentioned).
>> So together with the Ex-Haag-piece and Oliver's finds - he's moving at
the
>> moment, will ask him as soon as he has an Internet access again, how many
>> grams in total - we have at least 6kg.
>>
>> Best!
>> Martin
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von
> Michael
>> L Blood
>> Gesendet: Montag, 24. März 2008 00:25
>> An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Martin Altmann;
>> Meteorite List
>> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Chiang Khan differences of opinion
>>
>> Hi Dave & all,
>> Regarding your post below....
>> My information regarding TKW of the Chiang-Khan fall is from
>> The primary finder and author of the web page cited by Martin Altmann:
>>
>> http://www.meteorite-oliver.com/About_Chiang_Khan/about_chiang_khan.html
>>
>> Of particular interest is the comment therein:
>>
>> " Nobody was able anymore to give precise indications as to the exact
> date
>> of the event. Some 20 years ago it was, so they say, in the month of
>> November, without doubt - that's what I was told in the villages of the
>> strewn field.
>> Whatever it was that happened then - one is led to presume a second
>> meteorite fall on the same day or on the day after. According to recent
>> research (isotope analysis), the two large specimens, which are in
> private
>> Collection and in Chulalongkorn University, Bangkok, do not originate
> from
>> the Chiang-Khan fall. They are believed to have been transported into
>> Thailand from Laos. Two small pieces from Thailand were analyzed, one is
> H4
>> tending to H5; one was determined to be H5 in Japan, whereas the large
>> pieces are H6. Most of all, the noble gas contents of the large specimens
>> differ extremely from those of the Chiang-Khan pieces!"
>>
>> Please note that this is also weighted by the comments by Jeff
>> Grossman Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 11:58 PM
>> To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] More on Chiang Khan
>>
>> "The Meteoritical Bulletin does publish
>> announcements of new masses when they are
>> significant. Submit the report to the
>> editor. You will need good evidence that the
>> additional mass is really part of same fall."
>>
>> Please also note that I have every reason to believe that both
Bob
>> Haag and Matt Morgan believe the piece in reference is part of the
>> Chiang-Khan fall. However, this believe might be weighted against
>> The above comments (and I acknowledge I could be wrong on this).
>> I recognized your reference of source for purchase as "a dealer"
> was
>> Almost certainly intended to protect me from any perception of
shenanigans
>> In this matter - and I thank you for your intent. However, I was fully
> aware
>> Of all of the above comments and felt confident the major finder and the
>> Meteoritical Bulletin were correct in their assessment of related falls,
>> just as I am confident there is no intention to deceive, whatsoever, on
> the
>> part of Bob Haag or Matt Morgan and that their belief in the authenticity
> of
>> the stone mentioned is both sincere and reasonable. People will have to
>> decide for themselves whom is correct and whom is in error. I sided with
> the
>> primary finders and the Meteoritical Bulletin. I see no way to resolve
> this
>> without individually typing the stone, but even that, like the Baygoria
>> cluster.... Er... controversy .... will not be conclusive if this
(other?)
>> fall was also submitted and originally included as part of the
Chiang-Khan
>> fall, anyway - but the Meteoritical Bulletin does not see it as such.
>> Sincerely, Michael Blood
>>
>>
>> on 3/22/08 6:39 PM, Dave Gheesling at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>>> Matt & List,
>>>
>>> First, Matt, thanks for the info and congrats on having that terrific
>>> specimen in your already spectacular collection...simply superb.
>>>
>>> This prompts a second question, which is "Why is there not a means to
>>> 'officially' correct the record when a fall or find turns out to have a
>>> dramatically different TKW at some point after the formal classification
>> has
>>> cleared?" I'm not talking about confusion in the early stages of mining
> a
>>> strewn field, but rather about falls and/or finds where in many cases
>>> decades have passed since the initial discoveries and, for all intents
> and
>>> purposes, everything that will ever be found has been found (a slippery
>>> slope of a generalization, but hopefully this makes sense). There are
>> many,
>>> many such examples, and I'll post a link to only one below (read Remarks
>> in
>>> my Djermaia listing):
>>>
>>> http://www.fallingrocks.com/Collections/Djermaia.htm
>>>
>>> I purchased my Chiang-Khan from a dealer without much research, which
was
>>> completely my responsibility, to be clear. That said, it was marketed
as
>>> representing something approaching 5% of the recovered material from
that
>>> fall (which, again, is officially recorded as 367 grams when we know
that
>>> there is one stone of almost twice that size and speculation on the list
>> is
>>> that the TKW is actually likely to be near 7 kilograms). We had some
>> banter
>>> about the finer points of orientation a couple of weeks ago and how that
>> has
>>> an impact in the marketplace, and it seems to me that this is at least
as
>>> large an issue. And, forgetting the market altogether, shouldn't there
>>> perhaps be a more focused effort to "get the record straight" for the
>>> benefit of history? I'm probably missing something out of ignorance
>> here...
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance for thoughts and comments...always trying to learn
>>> something new.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>
>>
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Subject: [meteorite-list] Krasnojarsk mass at Verdansky?
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Does anyone know how much Krasnojarsk is left at
the Verdansky Institute? I cannot locate an exact figure.
Thanks,
Matt
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Subject: [meteorite-list] AD- NWA 5000 Slices/Fragments and Auctions!
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Dear List Members,
Please have a look at the below listed slices of
Northwest Africa 5000. These represent the smallest
rated slices we have in inventory and come with
individualized portfolios. All of the largest pieces
are now on hold pending institutional and corporate
negotiations. I am offering all of these at a 25%
discount below the listed appraised value. We would
like to see some of this fantastic lunar meteorite end
up in private collections so will also entertain
reasonable offers.
I was unaware until recently that this luniate is the
only gabbro from the lunar highlands ever found
including those brought back on Apollo and Luna
missions putting it into a class of its own. The more
reports I get back from laboratories, the more
impressive this gorgeous meteorite becomes and
interest is now intense.
Also, the last of the remaining fragments can be found
on eBay at this link:
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZraremeteorites
Specimen #1-S36, 1.75g end cut, 31mmX17mmX5mm, Rating
2, Value $2,100.00
http://themeteoritesite.com/AreaC-Section2-Slice36-Top.jpg
http://themeteoritesite.com/AreaC-Section2-Slice36-Bottom.jpg
Specimen #2-S35, 1.8g part slice, 25mmX22mmX2mm,
Rating 5, Value $2,700.00
http://themeteoritesite.com/AreaC-Section2-Slice35-Top.jpg
http://themeteoritesite.com/AreaC-Section2-Slice35-Bottom.jpg
Specimen #3-S34, 1.9g part slice, 24mmX21mmX1.5mm,
Rating 5, Value $2,850.00
http://themeteoritesite.com/AreaC-Section2-Slice34-Top.jpg
http://themeteoritesite.com/AreaC-Section2-Slice34-Bottom.jpg
Specimen #4-S19, 1.94g part slice, 23mmX23mmX2mm,
Rating 7, Value $3,298.00
http://themeteoritesite.com/AreaC-Section2-Slice19-Top.jpg
http://themeteoritesite.com/AreaC-Section2-Slice19-Bottom.jpg
Specimen #5-S21, 1.96g part slice, 23mmX23mmX2mm,
Rating 6+, Value $3,186.00
http://themeteoritesite.com/AreaC-Section2-Slice21-Top.jpg
http://themeteoritesite.com/AreaC-Section2-Slice21-Bottom.jpg
Specimen #6-S20, 2.02g part slice, 22mmX21mmX2mm,
Rating 5+, Value $3,080.00
http://themeteoritesite.com/AreaC-Section2-Slice20-Top.jpg
http://themeteoritesite.com/AreaC-Section2-Slice20-Bottom.jpg
Specimen #7-S17, 2.19g part slice, 23mmX23mmX2mm,
Rating 5, Value $3,285.00
http://themeteoritesite.com/AreaC-Section2-Slice17-Top.jpg
http://themeteoritesite.com/AreaC-Section2-Slice17-Bottom.jpg
Specimen #8-S29, 2.46g part slice, 24mmX23mmX2mm,
Rating 6+, Value $3,554.00
http://themeteoritesite.com/AreaC-Section2-Slice29-Top.jpg
http://themeteoritesite.com/AreaC-Section2-Slice29-Bottom.jpg
Specimen #9-S16, 2.77g part slice, 24mmX23mmX2.5mm,
Rating 6+, Value $4,482.00
http://themeteoritesite.com/AreaC-Section2-Slice16-Top.jpg
http://themeteoritesite.com/AreaC-Section2-Slice16-Bottom.jpg
Specimen #10-S30, 3.43g part slice, 25mmX22mmX2.5mm,
Rating 7+, Value $5,881.00
http://themeteoritesite.com/AreaC-Section2-Slice30-Top.jpg
http://themeteoritesite.com/AreaC-Section2-Slice30-Bottom.jpg
Portfolio which comes with each of these slices:
http://themeteoritesite.com/Portfolio.jpg
Thank you for looking,
Best Regards,
Adam
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