Hi Joe,

It seems there is a shelf live on the allertest people can buy so you about have to wait until you have a number of items needing testing then order the kit one at a time for testing. I also HIGHLY recommend seeing O. Richard Norton's book "Field Guide to Meteors and Meteorites" as he has some household items you can safely use to test suspect specimens. Best!

--AL Mitterling

----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Kerchner" <skyrockmeteori...@yahoo.com>
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I tried the allertest on a few known chondrites and they did not show positive, maybe the allertest I have is bunk. I tried it on a few H chondrites and it not once tested positive. I have had it for a long time, maybe it is too old, I'm not sure, but it didnt work. I'll have to order some more and try it again..
Best,
Joe K



----- Original Message ----
From: "cdtuc...@cox.net" <cdtuc...@cox.net>
To: Joe Kerchner <skyrockmeteori...@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 10:17:19 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Possible new Illinois meteorite

Joe,
If you read about allertest on Randy's site you will see that it is a very sensitive test and will detect even trace amounts of nickel. I have had the same results. Fe Ni will test positive evey time. Having said that , there is magnetite on Mars right?
Good luck. Carl
---- Joe Kerchner <skyrockmeteori...@yahoo.com> wrote:

I'm quite sure it is not magnetite, I am almost positive it is Fe Ni, It tested pos with allertest, but not always, It has tested pos a couple times and nothing sometimes on the same sample, but now Im out of allertest so I can not confirm it forsure. Al Metterling is running a few tests on it and sending a couple sample to a friend of his for further testing.
Thanks,
Joe K



----- Original Message ----
From: "cdtuc...@cox.net" <cdtuc...@cox.net>
To: Joe Kerchner <skyrockmeteori...@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 10:54:56 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Possible new Illinois meteorite

Joe, I use a mineral microscope and a straight pin and I press the pin into the metal. If it is metal it may be malleable. If it is magnetite it is brittle and will not easily scratch. This is just a feel good test but if it is malleable that is a good sign. I hope it is. I am very excited for you. This kind of thing inspires all of us. Carl

---- Joe Kerchner <skyrockmeteori...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> The metal reflects just like in chondrites. I just have trouble getting > it to reflect and show the matrix at the same time so I manipulate the > light so that I can get pictures of the metal and pics of the > matris/inclusions.
> Thanks,
> Joe K
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: "cdtuc...@cox.net" <cdtuc...@cox.net>
> To: Joe Kerchner <skyrockmeteori...@yahoo.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 9:00:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Possible new Illinois meteorite
>
> Joe, I Hope they are meteorites but it looks like the metal is shiny > when rock is held in a certain position but then when turned the > reflection disappears. That is a tell for magnetite not metal. Normally > metal reflects light at multiple angles. I hope it is metal. good luck. > Carl
>
> ---- Joe Kerchner <skyrockmeteori...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >  Listees,
> > Hello all, I found 23 of these stones, I think might be meteorites. > > I was wondering if anyone have seen any known > > meteorites that resemble these stones. They has quite a bit of metal > > in them > > and lots of inclusions. I have looked at many meteorite images > > looking
> > for a match and have not found one that matches it 100%. I have found
> > just over 1.9kg of it total. I sent a few sample to Al Mitterling and
> > he said it looks like a good candidate, but needs more testing. I was
> > just wondering what you all think of them. When I hear back from him > > I will let everyone here know if it is or it is just a wrong. > > I have been searching/hunting for over 3 years and these are the > > best finds I have made to date, keeping my fingers crossed, but not > > counting on it, I know how hard it is to make a cold find, especially > > here in Northern Illinois..
> >
> > Here is a link to see some of them sliced and polished:
> >
> > http://illinoismeteorites.com/cgi-bin/board/YaBB.pl?num=1243030765/18#18
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Joe Kerchner
> >
> >
> >
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