All:

I'm relatively new at this and I was wondering.

Why is there so much difference between this fall and the West, TX fall?

Thanks,

Greg S

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> Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 15:02:08 -0400
> From: cdtuc...@cox.net
> To: meteoritehun...@comcast.net
> CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; impact...@aol.com
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pitiful excuse for a meteorite hunter Carl 
> Esparza
>
> WOW,
> I will take my chances with Anne and IMCA. Unlike yourself, Anne is one of 
> the honorable list members. She knows me well enough to know that I did not 
> intentionally violate any rules. We all are entitled to an opinion and you 
> and I seem to disagree often. I don't know why this is on list though. Here 
> you go again mud slinging. As I recall it was you that acused me of 
> misrepresenting Carancas not the other way around. I simply pointed out that 
> those nice folks in Peru invited our team to lunch while you say they 
> threatened your life. Well Mike we all write our own epitaph and yours is 
> well known. This may be a good episode for that wonderful show, "Meteorite 
> Men"? OUCH ! Sorry I could not resist. .
> Carl --
> Carl or Debbie Esparza
> IMCA 5829
> Meteoritemax
>
>
> ---- meteoritehun...@comcast.net wrote:
>>
>>
>> WOW
>>
>>
>>
>> Can you say EX-IMCA member.
>>
>>
>>
>> Carl, you were rejected because of things like calling me a "psycho" and 
>> worse names.
>>
>> The list archives are full of bad things you have said about me. Do you 
>> honestly think  I would hunt with you after the things you have said about 
>> me regarding Carancas?
>>
>> Man, my day is getting brighter from the sheer idiocy of this.
>>
>> Michael Farmer
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: cdtuc...@cox.net
>> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, impact...@aol.com, 
>> meteorite...@yahoo.com
>> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 11:26:49 AM GMT -07:00 U.S. Mountain Time 
>> (Arizona)
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pitiful excuse for a meteorite hunter Carl 
>> Esparza
>>
>> Anne,
>> It is hard to believe that you would put this on the list.
>> Respectfully , this is not Jack's find. Sure Jack can claim ownership of his 
>> finds and nobody is going to take them away from him but give us all a break 
>> here. This is a fall that was observed by dozens of people and there are 
>> dozens of us out looking for evidence of it. I don't think this hit Jack on 
>> the head. I think he also had to figure this out. Why is he any better than 
>> the rest of us???? I simply asked what Mike drives as verification but 
>> obviously I had already figured out the general area. Cat Mountain was also 
>> this big secret that I had to do a lot of work to find out where it was. I 
>> then shared this info with others and it resulted in the discovery of Snyder 
>> Hill while they were looking. This is all good and if you don't agree I am 
>> sorry but How can you say  that this is Jack's find???? That is ridiculous!
>> I did not post the location but I did ask Mike if I could help earlier and 
>> he rejected me. This would have made this location confidential. Now I'm not 
>> so sure? And Jack never personally even bothered to respond to my list posts 
>> and requests to help. As you know I offered to rescue these critters before 
>> they drown in the rains. They said no.
>> I don't know what material is left to be found but hopefully now more will 
>> be found before they do drown. Again this is all good.
>> PS what is your call on the leak of a private email your Honor?
>> --
>> Carl or Debbie Esparza
>> IMCA 5829
>> Meteoritemax
>>
>>
>> ---- impact...@aol.com wrote:
>>> No, Mike,
>>>
>>> The IMCA does not condone this type of behavior. IMCA members are expected
>>> to behave in a professional and ethical manner. Please go read our code of
>>> Ethics, on the IMCA website,  _www.IMCA.cc_ (http://www.IMCA.cc) .
>>>
>>> It is Jack Schaeder's discovery, and Jack's wishes should be respected.
>>>
>>> But dreams of new meteorites will mislead people.
>>> Surely you know that.
>>>
>>> Anne M. Black
>>> _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/)
>>> _impact...@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com)
>>> Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc.
>>> _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated 7/17/2009 10:57:13 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
>>> meteorite...@yahoo.com writes:
>>> Hello list, I was forwarded an email that Carl Esparza, proud IMCA member,
>>> sent to some other Arizona residents.
>>>
>>>
>>> IMCA, do you approve of your members, supposedly the people of the highest
>>> integrity he, he,he he, stooping to spying on other people? Is there any
>>> action that can be taken on this matter.
>>>
>>>
>>> This shows how pitiful some of these people are, too lazy to do their own
>>> homework, and so deceitful that they will resort to pitiful spying on other
>>> list members rather than do their homework.
>>>
>>> This type of crap is EXACTLY why you are not welcome.
>>>
>>> Take this hint, learn how to hunt meteorites and stop trying to worm your
>>> way in. It takes work to find a meteorite, not scams.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Hello, Would any of you fellow Arizonians share with me off-List what kind
>>> of vehicle Mike Farmer drives. Hint- I have been hunting the Benson area
>>> Fall and don't know what kind or color of cars to look for. I promise to 
>>> share
>>> results if any. Thank you.
>>> Carl Esparza
>>> IMCA 5829
>>> Meteoritemax"
>>> **************Can love help you live longer? Find out now.
>>> (http://personals.aol.com/articles/2009/02/18/longer-lives-through-relationships/?ncid=emlweu
>>> slove00000001)
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