Blah blah blah---OK---we agree to disagree! No one knows for sure
but----simple life probably started as a soup on Earth made from carbon and
amino acids being brought here by comets, asteroids & meteors.
The rest is the handi-work of progressive evolution, Earth energies
(lightning) and the Divine!
That is what I believe! Try to prove differently! Also---no one knows the
truth about the singularity or what existed before the BIG BANG. Do you?
Open your mind man!
Kirk........
----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil Whitmer" <prairiecac...@rtcol.com>
To: <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 9:40 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Alien Contact Predicted
The Drake Equation is a prime example of mental masuturbation. It proves
absolutely nothing. How can an equation prove anything when none of the
variables are known with any certainity? As Rob points out, one zero
nullifies the whole silly thing. How about Ne; the number of known Earth
like planets supporting life=0. If you want dumb equations, the
creationists have a bunch of them that proves there is exactly one planet
that supports life. I can make up an equation that proves the existence
of mermaids, bigfoot, Nessie, unicorns, dragons, what imaginary being do
you want to believe in? I'll write a formula to prove it's existence. I'll
be easy, because I already know that life begets life. The Drake Equation
misses the key concept in the alien debate; mainly how does abiogenesis
occur? How does non living matter become alive? Once we figure out the
mechanics of this most basic problem, then we can extrapolate about
whether this seemingly miraculous event could happen more than once. If
you're going to believe in spontaneous generation on other planets, you
had better understand how it happened here first. Someone has to explain
to me how those left handed isomer amino acids from meteorites organized
themselves into living, self replicating DNA. (See this thread is related
to meteorites!)
Crichton summed it up best at a lecture at Caltech :
The problem, of course, is that none of the terms can be known, and most
cannot even be estimated. The only way to work the equation is to fill in
with guesses. [...] As a result, the Drake equation can have any value
from "billions and billions" to zero. An expression that can mean anything
means nothing. Speaking precisely, the Drake equation is literally
meaningless...
And puhleez, don't give me that stupid absence of evidence argument, it
didn't hold water when Rumsfeld used it for imaginary WMDs, and it doesn't
justify the belief in phantasmagorical alien creatures.
Mental masturbation is fun, but don't confuse it with real science!
From the Urban Dictionary:
Mental masturbation:
1. The act of engaging in useless yet intellectually stimulating
conversation, usually as an excuse to avoid taking constructive action in
your life.
2. The act of engaging in intelligent and interesting conversation purely
for the enjoyment of your own greatness and individuality. Subjects range
from obscure lp's to cultural movements in preindustrial societies. Either
delivered through grand monlogues or subtle conversation orientation, it
links large words and random references resulting in nothing acually being
communicated.
3. Overly intensive self gratifying procrastination, thought and
contemplation for a subject not necessarily warranting such effort.
4. The pretense of superior knowledge or intelligence by claiming
conjecture, theory, feeling or opinion as fact.
5. The act of engaging in impractical/nonproductive mental exercise /
thinkings / writings / etc., through which a practitioner only comforts
oneself mentally. Such acts don't lead to any constructive results what so
ever in the real world; some might even imagine oneself being transformed
into superman, or simply the opposite sex, etc.
In short, it's just bs/crap.
Phil Whitmer
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