Sorry, I should have added: the observable facts don´t seem to be the problem 
here, but all the *CONSTRAINTS* on them involved, right Jeff?

Alex 

-------- Original-Nachricht --------
Datum: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 21:57:35 +0200
Von: "Alexander Seidel" <g...@gmx.net>
An: Jeff Grossman <jgross...@usgs.gov>, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] CAI and chondrules

From my layman´s perspective and point of view: isn´t it interesting to note 
that there is still **so much** controversy over chondrule formation, those 
little round objects which are so evident and very clearly visible in many of 
the meteorites in our collections, while at the very same time all the basic 
physical conditions and evolutionary laws even on small timescales seem to be 
quite well understood? But then again all the many empirical facts obviously 
still have to come under serious scrutiny to finally have, at best, sort of a 
"generally accepted truth" emerge: a mainstream theory of chondrule formation 
that will be agreed upon by most scientists - one of these days.

Fascinating, especially in this era where many "basic" things seem to be 
understood! I´m excited to learn more about this, as time goes by... :-)

Alex
Berlin/Germany


-------- Original-Nachricht --------
> Datum: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 14:52:08 -0400
> Von: Jeff Grossman <jgross...@usgs.gov>
> An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] CAI and chondrules

> I didn't say "we don't know cr*p"... I said there 
> was not a definitive answer.  We know a lot about 
> the timing, materials, and physical conditions 
> needed to make chondrules and CAIs, and people 
> have used these to make models for their 
> formation.  But many of these constraints are 
> under scrutiny right now, and some pretty basic 
> things are still controversial.  What this means 
> is... ok, we don't know cr*p.  But progress is being made.
> 
> Jeff
> 
> 
> At 02:39 PM 10/1/2009, Sterling K. Webb wrote:
> >Hi, Carl, Francesco, Jeff, List,
> >
> >Wrong, Carl. A good solid "We don't know
> >crap about this yet; it's all up in the air"
> >is the best kind of definitive answer.
> >
> >There are probably a half-dozen scenarios
> >for how this data came about and there's few
> >reasons to choose any one over the others.
> >
> >I was glad to hear Jeff confirm it.
> >
> >
> >Sterling K. Webb
> >-----------------------------------------------------------
> >----- Original Message ----- From: "Carl 's" <carloselgua...@hotmail.com>
> >To: <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
> >Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 5:49 PM
> >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] CAI and chondrules
> >
> >
> >
> >Ahhh! Good questions, Francesco. I had been 
> >wondering about CAIs and chondrules myself. None 
> >of the books I've read explains,how?
> >
> >Thanks also for your answer, Jeff. While not 
> >definitive, it seems to be the only answer at this time. Thank you.
> >
> >Carl
> >
> >
> >Jeff Grossman wrote:
> >>...
> >
> >Definitive answers to what caused the formation of CAIs and chondrules
> >are not known.
> >
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