-----Forwarded Message-----
>From: countde...@earthlink.net
>Sent: Nov 19, 2009 1:51 PM
>To: Michael Fowler <mqfow...@mac.com>
>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Biophysicist confirms Liberal boy's      
>meteorite       discovery
>
>Hi Mike and List,
>
>RPG's don't make a crater that big. Anybody want to run some calc's on what it 
>would take to make an impact crater one foot deep and two and a half feet in 
>diameter in nice loamy soil... as depicted? Or, if the boy did greatly enlarge 
>it ...how about just a hole the size of that frag one foot deep?
>
>Guido
>
>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Michael Fowler <mqfow...@mac.com>
>>Sent: Nov 19, 2009 1:38 PM
>>To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>>Cc: Michael Fowler <mqfow...@mac.com>
>>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Biophysicist confirms Liberal boy's     
>>meteorite       discovery
>>
>>Well, they say a picture is worth a thousand words, and I would certainly 
>>agree!  Thanks, Graham.
>>
>>A small meteorite could never make a big hole like in the picture, but people 
>>could, while digging around to find the meteorite at the bottom, so my 
>>hypothesis has not been conclusively falsified, yet.  However, this does 
>>shift the balance of evidence back toward it being a hoax.  
>>
>>Time will tell.
>>
>>Mike
>>
>>> Another picture here showing the so called impact place/pit!! 
>>> 
>>> http://208.62.60.4/78/printer_1564.shtml 
>>> 
>>> Could a small iron like that falling at terminal velocity produce that in 
>>> what looks like very hard ground?....looks artificial to me. (unless some 
>>> excavation was done to retrieve it) 
>>> 
>>> I would have thought though that Don must have seen many meteorites and 
>>> respect his thoughts....but as the latest discussion has shown...very few 
>>> fresh irons have been seen just after they fell and I still think this does 
>>> not look like it should....unless the photographs are very poor, making it 
>>> look browner and glossier than it really is? 
>>> 
>>> Would be interesting to have it tested to see if it has been cleaned and 
>>> treated in some way. 
>>> 
>>> I could be wrong, but.... 
>>> 
>>> Graham UK 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ---- Michael Fowler <mqfowler at mac.com> wrote: 
>>> 
>>> > Meteorite Hoax, or meteorite exaggeration? 
>>> 
>>> > 
>>> 
>>> > As a meteorite hoax, it is missing many of the classic symptoms, no 
>>> > flaming trail, no red hot iron at the bottom of the hole etc. 
>>> 
>>> > 
>>> 
>>> > Let me propose an alternate explanation: The size of the hole and the 
>>> > material shooting 5 feet high was an exaggeration, but it actually is a 
>>> > real fall. 
>>> 
>>> > 
>>> 
>>> > Mike Fowler 
>>> 
>>> > Chicago 
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