Hey Chris, List,

The report does state that there were no burn marks (possible fireworks?) or evidence of anything hot. D) If you look at the photos you'll notice the opening seems to support a "falling" object. Robert said himself, (unless misquoted) that “If you look at that hole, it shows that something small hit the roof at a high velocity,”

The comment "...reports of a loud noise almost precisely at the moment the building was struck are a solid clue that the object didn't come from space...." is misplaced and presumptive in my opinion. This is assuming the "loud noise" in question was a sonic boom, which people didn't say sonic boom, they said loud boom. The people who reported the "boom" were only 3 blocks away. And how do they know the exact moment of impact anyway since they saw nothing? No one except the people in the bar at the time of the event know that, or perhaps an eyewitness standing on the street outside the bar.

It's highly possible it could have been some explosive device such as fireworks. A large mortar could possibly make a whole that large. But the lack of burn marks doesn't support that.

Unless...

Here's a scenario. A large mortar exploded ABOVE the roof, not on it, and a piece of debris flew through the roof and ceiling tile. This would explain the lack of burning, it would explain the boom that was heard, and would explain the hole in the roof. It would also explain why there is no meteorite or rock found as of yet because while people are busy searching for rocks, the "debris" that actually caused the hole could be a hidden amongst the pieces of roofing material, wood splinters and insulation and look like nothing more than piece of the roof. Anyway, that's what I get from it, but what do I know?

"...The hole was clearly made from the roof down, which meant it wasn’t caused by gunfire in the bar, and there’s no burn marks or signs of high heat that would indicate lightning...."

The point is something either blew a hole in the roof or knocked a hole in the roof from to TOP DOWN. It's still a possibility that it could be a meteorite. Until proven it's not, we have to be open about the possibility.

Regards,
Eric



On 1/5/2010 11:23 AM, Chris Peterson wrote:
Don't overlook (C) something explosive made the hole, or (D) that an object actually went upwards, not down.

There's nothing wrong if somebody wants to investigate, but the description of the event is not consistent with a meteorite impact, so it's also perfectly understandable for hunters to pass on this one.

Chris

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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Hole in Red Rock Lounge Roof Still aMystery?????


Hi Gary, Matt,

Maybe you guys are simply being facetious or or skeptical. Maybe Matt, you really didn't feel like it was worth it. But, I believe it is worth it simply because it could have be a meteorite! And though up to this point though none have been found to prove that case, the evidence still suggests it could be. I know if I could have afforded it I would go investigate.

Did you see the photos? Read the articles, see the news report? Either A) the bar is pulling a big hoax , or perhaps hiding an embarrassing flub, and knocked the hole in the roof an tile themselves, or B) a small object with a solid mass crashed through the roof and ceiling tile.

Has anyone thought to ask the owners or bartender on duty that night for a list of people that where there in the bar during the even. Locals know locals and would probably be able to compile a list of people fairly easily. Perhaps a meteorite did fall through the roof and only one person saw it and took the object from the scene? Just hopeful thinking yes, but it's a possibility.

http://www.gazette.com/articles/guy-91739-bar-heard.html

Something fell through the roof. Where is it?

Some people just don't have the gumption to get in the car and drive half way across the country for a "possible" meteorite.

If you've ever met Robert you'll know right away he's the kind of hunter that does! He's got that air about him that just says "I'll go anywhere on earth to find a meteorite."

Way to go Robert!

Regards,
Eric

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