-----Original Message-----
From: wahlpe...@aol.com
To: parkforest...@hotmail.com
Sent: Mon, May 3, 2010 4:20 pm
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin Meteorite Hunt.
Hi Bill,
Since you have decided to call me names on a public forum I feel that I
need to speak up. But in the future I prefer to keep this off list.
I Never told anyone to beat it, I am not sure where that is coming from
.It is not up to the other hunters who is allowed to hunt the land. It
is strictly up to the landowners.
The reasons why I did not have an in depth conversation with you in
Wisconsin.
#1 We were in a rush.
#2 I had already formed a poor opinion of you by the many negative
posts you have made to the List . I felt it was best to keep a distance
from you. Maybe you have given me the wrong impression, I am strictly
basing it on several of your posts. Atlhough some of your posts are
nice... many are not. Perhaps I can refresh your memory.
Aug 18, 2009 the X - rated " SHAFT" post which is pretty
creative
yet so outrageous that I am surprised it made it to the List.
Or how about the July 20, 2009 "rats ass" post
or the July 11, 2009 "egomaniac dealers" post.
Perhaps it would serve you well to read your own advice on the post
dated May 2, 2009 regarding reading your old posts and realizing how "
damn stupid" they are. I will provide a link for you
in case you decide to check them out.
http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html
Sonny
-----Original Message-----
From: bill kies <parkforest...@hotmail.com>
To: wahlpe...@aol.com
Cc: meteorite-l...@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Mon, May 3, 2010 3:48 pm
Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin Meteorite Hunt.
Sonny,
You can spin it any way you like. Your lengthy chain of events should
include,
"We spent a minute talking to the guys that were there first and they
agreed
that it would be a pleasure for all of us to search together". One
minute of
courtesy goes a long way. There were at least 3 hours of daylight left.
I met several well known hunters on land that they claimed to have
secured and
was told in no uncertain terms to beat it. I did. Next time I'll
remember your
code of conduct.
Bill
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To: parkforest...@hotmail.com; meteorite-l...@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin Meteorite Hunt.
Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 09:26:20 -0400
From: wahlpe...@aol.com
Wow Bill, you really seem to remember the chain of events much
differently than I do. As I remember it was late in the day with
little
time left to hunt. As we pulled up there was a gentleman on an ATV, 2
guys standing at the back of a truck talking, and one guy leaning
over
a car talking thru the passenger window to the driver. As I
approached
the guy on the ATV I asked whose land it was, the man I spoke to WAS
the PATRIARCH of the land. We joked about me riding on the back of
his
ATV and how much he would charge me per hour to drive around in his
son's cornfield. He then suggested that I go talk to his son at the
house at the bottom of the hill and ask for permission for my friends
and I to hunt the land. As I was walking away you approached us and
said Hi. We introduced ourselves ,I shook your hand. We then drove
down
to the bottom of the hill to talk to the landowner. The landowner
greeted us and said "You can hunt this land all you want". We
discussed a 50/50 split of the finds and a dollar amount per gram for
his half if we were lucky enough to find any. He then explained the
property boundaries and wished us luck. Bill you have to remember
this was late in the day and we only had an hour and a half left of
sunlight. We only wanted to hunt the small corner of the property to
plan the next days hunt. You have to understand we spent thousands of
dollars to come and do this hunt between airfare, rent a car and
hotel.
We were on a mission to get as much done as possible in a few short
days. We are also working on mapping the finds and at the end will
present the map to the University. Time was of the essence that
evening.
Bill , you would also think that when we returned the following
morning
we were greeted by BOTH THE FATHER AND THE SON and spent a few
minutes
joking around. At this point I am sure they would have said something
if it was such a big deal.
It is up to the landowners who they allow to hunt their property, not
you.
Bill as with this post and with the history of some of your other
posts
to the list you can understand why we did not spend a lot of time
talking with you. Your bad reputation precedes you. Also for all of
the meteorites that you are saying are being recovered please
enlighten
me. So for the 12 days you and your team spent out there please let
us
know how many kilos you recovered. There is no doubt that there may
be
a lot of material in the field but it is yet be found. With the
planting going on there is a good chance the material may be lost
forever.
And as for Georgia, you're right my heart belongs to Georgia.
Sonny
-----Original Message-----
From: bill kies
To: wahlpe...@aol.com
Cc: meteorite-l...@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Sun, May 2, 2010 10:33 pm
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin Meteorite Hunt.
Well, I just returned from my third trip with 12 days walking on
cobbs
and I have to say that the most pathetic display of rude bs was that
of
Sonny what's his name. The man pulled up his truck, looked through us
like we were non-exixtant ignoring the fact, as we protested, that we
had previous permission to search the property in question. Sonny was
so aggressive that he didn't even notice that one of our team members
was a 77 year old man that was the Patriarch of the family that owned
the land. He ignored us and hauled ass straight up to the front door
trying to conive his way in. Nice work Sonny. You deserve a big pat
on
the back. You belong in Georgia. You're a real inspiration to us all
you greedy S*B. Bill PS: Keep pumping the lack of material. Time will
tell. ----------------------------------------> To:
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 00:37:00
-0400> From: wahlpe...@aol.com> Subject: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin
Meteorite Hunt.>> Hi All,>> I just returned from my second hunt in
Wisconsin. I hunted a total of 9> days in the field. I really enjoyed
spending time with the other> hunters and got to know some of the
locals too.> Without a doubt, Wisconsin is the friendliest state I
have
ever> visited. Everyone would invite you into their homes, also allow
you to> hunt for meteorites on their property. I even had> a chance
to
milk a cow. I want to say thanks to Rob Matson and Mark> Fries for
the
great work with the Doppler Radar. Terry Boudreaux and> Karl Aston
played a major role in gaining> access to hunt many of the
properties.
These 2 guys are awesome. What> really made this trip enjoyable was
spending time with everyone> hunting. After 9 days of hunting I was
able> to find 3 meteorites, one with the assistance of Brix (my dog)
and the> other 2 on my second trip out. The total of my finds is
366.4
grams. I> hope to post pictures from the hunt on my> website within
the
next week. The rumors of many stones being recovered> is simply not
true. Out of 6 guys hunting for 4 days( covering a lot of> ground )
only 2 stones were recovered.> On the previous hunt with 10 guys
hunting only 4 stones were recovered.> By far, the best complete
stone
I have seen is Rob Wesel's. Another> kudo's goes out to Joe Kerchner
for his> magnificent find. Eric Wichman also made some outstanding
finds.>> Many of the fields are now being plowed and planted. Further
recovery> of meteorites is becoming more difficult. It would be nice
to
compile a> list of everyone's finds to determine the TKW> so far.>>>
Good luck to all of the guys that are still out in the field.>>
Sonny>
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