Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET? -- Not!!

[Elizabeth Warner]

Zooming in on low res files of old Mars images until you see the pixels 
is not a good way to try to get others to see your point of view. I 
would be more understanding if you "see" a house in a jumble of boulders 
like someone might "see" a dragon shape in the clouds. But that's not 
what you mean is it?

Of course Ron won't respond.
Yes, pictures are worth a million words with 2 million being lies! 
Learning to interpret space imagery is an art. It is well known that 
various optical illusions occur when looking at images and you don't 
have the right context. Craters can look like raised domes... Alot has 
to do with shadows and how our eyes interpret (misinterpret) shadows in 
pictures.

Clear Skies!
Elizabeth

James Balister wrote:
OK Richard, lets forget about Ron.  He no doubt won't reply to that question 
anyway.  And I would be surprised if he did!  Now I know that this thread is 
about meteorites, which I like just like the rest of you here.  But lets face 
it some meteorites come from Mars which makes Mars a good topic.
Four years ago I published a book,  The Adventures of Diana. An adventure 
fantasy that is fiction.  I did research for the book for over 30 years to get 
my facts right.  One project took about 10 years of 8 hours a day pouring over 
Mars pictures from NASA/JPL.  I  easly checked a million pictures.  I figured 
that if MCDonald (if I remember his name right)  found one face on Mars that 
perhaps there were more!  What I found on Mars I put the coordidates in the 
book as part of the story.  My book is for sale all over the world.  Yet I have 
not sold 1 coppy.  Which I find very strange.  The books spelling got screwed 
up and it would have taken a fortune to fix it, so I let it go.  Seeing that 
most can't spell anyway.  And On my site the data that I get says that a 
persentage who come there are redirected and another groupe are told that there 
is no such site and still another groupe is told that they are forbiden.  Only 
1 percent get to see
 the site.  Anyway,  Here is the site.   http://dianathebook.com/   At the bottom of the page are pictures that I got from NASA/JPL.  They are from Mars!    I enlarged them and no other changes were made. Now if you just decide to buy the book, please let me know so that I can figure out if you actualy can get the book.  And DO let me think just what you think about the picutres that I have found on Mars that show structures!  I have put the pictures on the net but no one seem to care!  
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From: Richard Kowalski <damoc...@yahoo.com>
To: "meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>; 
James Balister <balisterja...@att.net>
Sent: Fri, May 21, 2010 4:59:46 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?

I don't want to speak for Ron, but I do not think he reads the lists he posts 
to. That's not his job. He posts press releases and in the 13 plus years I've 
been aware of his duties, I can't remember a single time he discussed any of 
them, even when asked.

As someone who's funding comes from NASA, I can 
tell you nothing would be better and more exciting for the agency and especially 
those working on Mars than to find incontrovertible proof that life existed (or 
better still) still exists on Mars. There's >no way< that would be kept 
secret. 


--
Richard Kowalski
Full Moon Photography
IMCA 
#1081


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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?
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Date: Friday, May 21, 2010, 2:48 PM
No comment!  I want to hear what 
Ron
has to say about pictures first!   I am sure that he is

asking around.  So lets see what he says.  Then we can get
started, or 
not.  



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Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Mars 
Odyssey THEMIS
Images: ET?

So they must be NASA's. And if they come from
NASA's site, 
they 
must be NASA's. Right?



I'm not sure I follow what you are 
implying. You claiming you have 
photo's from NASA's
website that shows an alien 
house?

Warren



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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS
Images: ET?

Waren, then you are saying 
that if someone did
discover a martian house 
that
NASA could NOT deny it because all Mars pictures come
from NASA? 

After all you and I did not go there to take the pics.
So 
they must be NASA's. 
And if they come from NASA's site, they must 
be
NASA's. 
Right?



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From: 
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Sansoucie 
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Sent: Fri, May 
21, 
2010 3:32:42 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 
Mars Odyssey THEMIS

Images: ET?
Hello All,

Has 

anyone bothered to ponder the fact that the very
pictures 
discussed 
were PROVIDED by NASA?

Do we 
think that if NASA were
to find E.T.'s they would 
be foolish enough to give
YOU the photo proof and 
then
deny it all???

Come 
on folks. Again.... 
conspiracy theories are
scenarios that are more difficult to execute 
and maintain than the 
truth they
attempt to 
debunk.

Often times a mountain in a poor picture is 
just
a mountain in a poor picture.
NASA can run the 
math on orbital 
insertion
and actually achieve it.... take a look at 
how hard that is to do and then think
twice before you 
feel they 
would be dumb enough to hand out photos of ET 
and
then waste time 
denying it.
Warren Sansoucie
I.M.C.A. #3174

St.
Louis MO

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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars 
Odyssey THEMIS
Images: 
ET?
Tracy, I agree with you! All I have seen 
from other people is just rocks
and shadows. But will NASA say 
the 
same of real good pictures that can be
verafied as actually comming 
from NASA. Or will they finaly admit 
to the
et 
presence?

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PM
Subject: Re: 
[meteorite-list]
Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: 
ET?

I'm fairly

sure the 
line would be 'Extraordinary claims require
extraordinary
proof.' Are you asking 
whether NASA would endorse
a 
claim
that an image from one of their Mars photos is 
proof of extraterrestrial
intelligence? Several 
people have pointed to details that
they found on
NASA photos and said 
that they are structures or
Stonehenge-like 
constructs or
monuments or other proof of ET.
Each 
time, when the area can be
scrutinized in more detail, 
the
'pyramids' or 
whatnot have been shown to be a
natural 
formation,
trick of lighting, or other explanation. No 
aliens
needed. Even the famous 'Face' 
falls apart 
when examined more
closely. Humans are 
pattern-seeking beasties; it's a 
survival mechanism,
but 
sometimes it backfires on us.
It would have 
to
be a pretty obvious
and 
verifiable alien artifact 
to get the thumbs
up 
from NASA or JPL as such, and
so far, nothing 
even remotely like
that has been 
discovered.
My 2
shekels.
Best!

Tracy
Latimer

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Subject: Re: 
[meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS
Images: May
17-21,
2010

Attn Ron! First I 
want to say
that I 
have a Big, Big
respect for 
NASA/JPL! And 
people like Patty
Garsea who does grate work! But 
you
never answered my
question.
How 
would NASA react if someone found faces
on Mars that 
are like The Face on 
Mars? Or other structures using
NASA's 
own
pictures? Would they be excited and 
accepting?

Or just the reverse?
Just 
what
would they do? I am 
sure we would all 
like to know the
the answer to that 
and
the official stance of
NASA/JPL.



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