Aside from the political overtones of his post, I think Michael's point is palpable. It's happened countless times in the past, human need transformed into greed. Draw a line and it will eventually be erased if given enough time.

Everything is dynamic, including borders, fences, and arbitrary lines in the sand. Empires rise and fall over time. Time and knowledge are the deciding factors, not political affiliation or moral dogma. A video-map of all the world's empires from the beginning of time until now would look similar to diseases spreading and receding across the landscape of our planet. The world at night from space appears similar to a petri dish growing with blotches and bands of a human life which stretch for hundreds and thousands of miles. The Earth when viewed from space is simply another little spec among trillions upon trillions of specs in this vast galaxy. The universe cannot fathom us, much less us the universe.

The idea that we charge money for energy which is free in the universe is laughable or sad, I can't figure out which. One day it will be free. The idea that someone should have to pay massive amounts money to save themselves or a loved one, or repair an injury, disease, or cancer, is ridiculously wrong.

Since we're talking about mothers here, I'll share a personal family experience. My mother has suffered and survived 2 massive strokes and a third mild stroke in between over the past 10 years. She's had multiple heart attacks, and open heart surgery to install a stint which kept her alive, but possibly caused the second massive stroke. The second "big stroke" put her in the hospital for 5-6 months! While in the hospital she contracted a necrotizing bacterial infection. For those that don't know what that is, it eats flesh. This compounded the problem of the stroke, infection and kidney failure, and many other health problems she had while in the hospital. During this whole ordeal I was unable to see her but ONCE while she was in the hospital since my family is in Florida, and I live in California. We almost lost her many times, and I dreaded that phone call in the middle of the night. The guilt for not being able to be with my family during this hard time because of MONEY made me seriously resent it. The medical bill for the almost 6 month hospital stay was close to $1 Million dollars! (not sure of the exact amount) I'm thankful for the hospital saving my mothers life, multiple times during this ordeal. The hospital wrote off the expense... I'm not sure how they could absorb a $1 Million expense but they did, and my family didn't have to pay it back. We were scared they would take the house, the cars and everything we own. There's no way an average family can pay those kinds of medical bills...

The point is medical care has gotten so ridiculously expensive to the point almost no one can afford it. This is backwards. We're doing it wrong. Medical care should be free and your health natural. If you're with a friend and he or she gets a scrape on the knee you'll give them a band-aid.

Are you going to send them a bill later for using your band-aids, alcohol swabs, or aspirin?

No, that would be silly wouldn't it...?

A video some might enjoy...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p86BPM1GV8M

Regards,
Eric





On 11/17/2010 5:05 AM, Michael Blood wrote:
People always despise those they rip off.
The entire southwest was stolen by the US from Mexico -
       When she was alive I used to love to hear my mother
In law talk about "the line in the dirt" that the US tried
To keep her separated from about a third of the family
Which lived on the other side when the line was actually
drawn. (They did the same thing to the local roving native
Americans - many were south of the line at the time the
Line was drawn, as they traveled about at differing times
Of the year from El Cajon to La Jolla to Baja and back -
They were never allowed to cross the line in the dirt again,
Leaving much of the tribe "American" and much of it "Mexican."
       Any way, my M.I.L.  used to smuggle sick babies,
parrots, whatever she wanted while my wife was growing
up and my wife, as an 11 year old girl would protest,
"But Mommie, this is smuggling and they will arrest us,"
and she would just say, "Oh don't be silly - it's just a line
in the dirt."
         I cannot tell you how much I miss that one....
         Michael (PS: Fascinating that people consider
Health care "an industry" - a commercial venture. While
They will have a hard time commercializing air, those on
The list under 50 will live to see water completely commercialized.
It isn't going to be a pretty picture.
         Oh, ya, this is a METEORITE list !


On 11/16/10 5:43 PM, "Adam Hupe"<raremeteori...@yahoo.com>  wrote:

Hi Eric and List,

The cost for rattlesnake anti-venom seems to be around $3,500.00 for a small
vial.  I imagine that a Mojave Green's venom which is double-acting would
require special treatment.  I am certainly not an expert on such things.
Perhaps a zoo keeper that handles snakes can answer these questions since they
keep anti-venom on hand.  The local hospitals here no longer carry scorpion
anti-venom and tell you to tuff it out for 22 days if you are stung by a nasty
one.  I was told it is no longer available at any costs.


When I moved, my health insurance was no  good here in Nevada.  It took me
over
a year to find new insurance that would cover me nationally, not just in a
single state.  I went for over a year without insurance and was worried that
if
something happening in field, I would not be able to afford it. I had no idea
this was an issue until I visited a doctor for an  emergency and found my
insurance was no good here. After being stung twice by scorpions and hearing
of
the mighty Mojave Green snake, I felt it necessary to inquire about such
things.  I repeated what was told.  The people here in the Southwest have
strong
opinions about certain things so I take a lot of it with a grain of salt and
yes, sometimes the comments come from ignorance.


The main point is to do everything possible to avoid getting bitten or stung
by
some poisonous creature because treatment may not be readily available.


Best Regards,

Adam
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