I would advise that the other risk associated with compiling and publishing a blacklist is the potential for libeling someone. Libel has a serious legal risk and cost associated with it. One needs to be very careful as illustrated by this thread and the potential for wrongly implicating innocent individuals.
Best, Mark IMCA #5492 Mark Hirsch Photojournalist 2076 Airport Road Platteville, WI 53818 Cell 563-590-2710 markhir...@markhirschphoto.com http://www.markhirschphoto.com Providing professional photojournalism and commercial photography services. On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 12:00 PM, Michael Mulgrew <mikest...@gmail.com> wrote: > > List, > > So the very first post speaking to putting together a black list > incorrectly accuses someone of being a fraud? Seems to me like trying > to compile such a list would end up causing way more grief than it > would solve. > > Regards, > Michael in so. Cal. > > On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 8:23 AM, Robert Woolard > <meteoritefin...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Hello All, > > > > I wholeheartedly agree with Frank and Dave. There has to be a huge > > misunderstanding/mistake made somewhere along the way in listing Todd > > Parker as a scammer. From the all-too-little time that I have had the > > pleasure of being in Todd's company, I can most definitely say that he is > > an absolutely GREAT person, one of the nicest most friendly guys you could > > ever hope to meet! The list of attributes that Dave listed in the previous > > email describes Todd perfectly. > > > > Al, I firmly believe that if if you will look back over whatever info you > > based this on, you will find it was not him that you were thinking about. > > > > Sincerely, > > Robert Woolard > > > > > > --- On Thu, 5/12/11, Frank Cressy <fcre...@prodigy.net> wrote: > > > >> From: Frank Cressy <fcre...@prodigy.net> > >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Scam Artist - Joel Samson - FakeLunar > >> Meteorites > >> To: d...@fallingrocks.com > >> Cc: "meteoritelist" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> > >> Date: Thursday, May 12, 2011, 10:01 AM > >> Hello All, > >> > >> Dave Gheesling can't post to the list at the moment, but > >> given the seriousness > >> of the accusation made against Todd Parker, he asked that I > >> post this on his > >> behalf: > >> > >> His message follows: > >> > >> Hello List, > >> While I haven't seen where Todd Parker's name was mentioned > >> as a "possible > >> scammer" other than in Al Mitterling's recent post (I > >> haven't been closely > >> following the thread), TODD PARKER MOST ASSUREDLY IS NOT > >> A SCAMMER OR ANYTHING > >> OF THE SORT. To the contrary, Todd is probably one of the > >> finest people I've > >> had the pleasure of knowing -- inside or outside of the > >> meteorite community. > >> Presumably this mention has something to do with the recent > >> Mifflin thread, but > >> Todd's name shouldn't be associated with anything other > >> than integrity -- he is > >> a class act, to be sure. > >> All the best, > >> Dave > >> > >> -------- Original Message -------- > >> >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Scam Artist - Joel Samson > >> - FakeLunar > >> >Meteorites > >> >From: Frank Cressy <fcre...@prodigy.net> > >> >Date: Thu, May 12, 2011 10:45 am > >> >To: al mitt <alm...@kconline.com>, > >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > >> >Cc: Chris Spratt <cspr...@islandnet.com> > >> > > >> >Hi Al, > >> > > >> >You made a mistake listing Todd Parker as a scammer. > >> He was mentioned as > >> >selling Whetstone Mountains that were definitely real. > >> > > >> >Frank > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >----- Original Message ---- > >> >From: al mitt <alm...@kconline.com> > >> >To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > >> >Cc: Chris Spratt <cspr...@islandnet.com> > >> >Sent: Thu, May 12, 2011 5:57:42 AM > >> >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Scam Artist - Joel Samson > >> - FakeLunar Meteorites > >> > > >> >Hi Gary, Greg H., Chris and all, > >> > > >> >Two names have come up recently as scammers. Joel > >> Samson and Todd Parker. We > >> >also know of another guy from the Chicago area that is > >> a fraud. What I would > >> >like to see is a list of people and companies that are > >> known to be selling > >> >fakes, mis-representing material and so forth. I am not > >> talking about > >> >someone who has made a mistake. > >> > > >> >In order to qualify, the person or company in question > >> would have to have > >> >evidence that would support their efforts to be > >> purposely doing something > >> >wrong. I wouldn't want a witch hunt or dealers who > >> don't like other dealers, > >> >trying to put people on this list. I know this is > >> probably going to open a > >> >can of worms BUT it is important to know suspect con > >> artists, frauds and > >> >people and companies who are just not getting the fact > >> we don't like our > >> >collections messed up. > >> > > >> >Does a list already exist? If not it sure would be nice > >> to have one that > >> >could be shared with the collecting community from time > >> to time. Other input > >> >appreciated. > >> > > >> >--AL Mitterling > >> > > >> >----- Original Message ----- > >> >From: "Gary Fujihara" <fuj...@mac.com> > >> >To: "Chris Spratt" <cspr...@islandnet.com> > >> >Cc: <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> > >> >Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 3:41 PM > >> >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Scam Artist - Joel Samson > >> - FakeLunar > >> >Meteorites > >> > > >> > > >> >> I've asked the administrator of the Meteorites > >> group on Facebook to remove > >> >> this person from the group. Hopefully this will > >> put a damper on his > >> >> shenanigans, but probably nothing short of legal > >> action will make him > >> >> cease and desist. > >> >> > >> >> gary > >> >> > >> >> On May 11, 2011, at 8:50 AM, Chris Spratt wrote: > >> >> > >> >>> Never was my friend on Facebook yet he managed > >> to post things in a group > >> >>> I belong to. Is there a way to unfriend > >> someone from a group? > >> >>> > >> >>> Chris Spratt > >> >>> (Via my iPhone) > >> >>> > >> ______________________________________________ > >> >>> Visit the Archives at > >> >>> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > >> >>> Meteorite-list mailing list > >> >>> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > >> >>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > >> >> > >> >> Gary Fujihara > >> >> Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693) > >> >> 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 > >> >> http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/ > >> >> http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html > >> >> (808) 640-9161 > >> >> > >> >> ______________________________________________ > >> >> Visit the Archives at > >> >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > >> >> Meteorite-list mailing list > >> >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > >> >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > >> >> > >> > > >> >______________________________________________ > >> >Visit the Archives at > >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > >> >Meteorite-list mailing list > >> >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > >> >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > >> > > >> >______________________________________________ > >> >Visit the Archives at > >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > >> >Meteorite-list mailing list > >> >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > >> >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > >> > > >> ______________________________________________ > >> Visit the Archives at > >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > >> Meteorite-list mailing list > >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________ > > Visit the Archives at > > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > ______________________________________________ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ______________________________________________ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
