Behcet,

Reading Multimob's current charter and the planned continuum thru possible
rechartering:

   Future work, subject to rechartering, may study/evaluate extensions
   to IGMPv3/MLDv2 to support better operation in mobile environments.

I would be inclined to say that anything DMM related was not planned for
Multimob and DMM goes beyond the original scope of 'providing guidance
for supporting multicast in a mobile environment'. I would not add any
restricting text regarding multicast into DMM charter.

However, I leave this to our ADs to judge whether multicast enhancement
*shall not* be done within DMM after our requirement and analysis work
conclude that multicast enhancements are needed. Assuming we (DMM) would
conclude enhancements are needed for multicast around IETF#85, it would
be a bit odd if another WG is already chartered to work in a solution
space in the exactly same area.

- Jouni


On Dec 14, 2011, at 7:44 PM, Behcet Sarikaya wrote:

> Hi Jouni, Julien,
> 
> Should we say that multicast is out of scope?
> 
> Multicast dmm  could possibly be covered in Multimob.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Behcet
> 
> On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 2:54 AM, jouni korhonen <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>> Folks,
>> 
>> We have been working on a charter text from DMM based on the initial goal 
>> setting and the input we received during the Taipei meeting. Note that this 
>> is the first draft and now we are soliciting for input.
>> 
>> - Jouni & Julien
>> 
>> 
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> Distributed Mobility Management (DMM)
>> -------------------------------------
>> 
>> Charter
>> 
>>  Current Status: Active
>> 
>>  Chairs:
>>     Julien Laganier <[email protected]>
>>     Jouni Korhonen <[email protected]>
>> 
>>  Internet Area Directors:
>>     Ralph Droms <[email protected]>
>>     Jari Arkko <[email protected]>
>> 
>>  Internet Area Advisor:
>>     Jari Arkko <[email protected]>
>> 
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>> 
>> Description of Working Group:
>> 
>>  The Distributed Mobility Management (DMM) working group specifies IP
>>  mobility, access network and routing solutions, which allow for
>>  setting up IP networks so that traffic is distributed in an
>>  optimal way and does not rely on centrally deployed anchors to manage
>>  IP mobility sessions. The distributed mobility management solutions
>>  aim for transparency above the IP layer, including maintenance of
>>  active transport level sessions as mobile hosts or entire mobile
>>  networks change their point of attachment to the Internet.
>> 
>>  The protocol solutions should be enhancements to existing IP mobility
>>  protocols, either host- or network-based, such as Mobile IPv6
>>  [RFC6275, 5555], Proxy Mobile IPv6 [RFC5213, 5844] and
>>  NEMO [RFC3963]. Alternatively, the distributed mobility management
>>  solution can be transparent to any underlying IP mobility protocol.
>>  Although the maintenance of stable home address(es) and/or prefix(es)
>>  and upper level sessions is a desirable goal when mobile hosts/routers
>>  change their point of attachment to the Internet, it is not a strict
>>  requirement. Mobile hosts/routers should not assume that IP
>>  addressing including home address(es) and/or home network prefix(es)
>>  remain the same throughout the entire upper level session lifetime.
>> 
>>  The distributed mobility management solutions primarily target IPv6
>>  Deployment and should not be tailored specifically to support IPv4,
>>  in particular in situations where private IPv4 addresses and/or NATs
>>  are used. At least IPv6 is assumed to be present in both the mobile
>>  host/router and the access networks. Independent of the distributed
>>  mobility management solution, backward compatibility must be
>>  maintained. If the network or the mobile host/router do not support
>>  the distributed mobility management enabling protocol, nothing should
>>  break.
>> 
>> Work items related to the distributed mobility management include:
>> 
>>  o Solution Requirements: Define precisely the problem of distributed
>>    mobility management and identity the requirements for a distributed
>>    mobility management solution.
>> 
>>  o Best practices and Gap Analysis: Document best practices for the
>>    deployment of existing mobility protocols in a distributed mobility
>>    management environment and identify the limitations of each such
>>    approach with respect to fulfillment of the solution requirements.
>> 
>>  o If limitations are identified as part of the above deliverable,
>>    specify extensions to existing protocols that removes these
>>    limitations within a distributed mobility management environment.
>> 
>> Goals and Milestones:
>> 
>>  Aug 2012 - Submit I-D 'Solution Requirements' as a working
>>             group document. To be Informational RFC.
>>  Aug 2012 - Submit I-D 'Best practices and Gap Analysis' as a working
>>             group document. To be Informational RFC.
>>  Nov 2012 - Evaluate the need for additional working group document(s)
>>             for extensions to fill the identified gaps.
>>  Jan 2013 - Submit I-D 'Solution Requirements' to the IESG for
>>             consideration as an Informational RFC.
>>  Jan 2013 - Submit I-D 'Best practices and Gap Analysis' to the IESG for
>>             consideration as an Informational RFC.
>>  Mar 2013 - Conclude the working group or re-charter.
>> 
>> 
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