Hi all,
It is good practice to verify the facts in these internet chain letters.
But, regardless of the authenticity of the sources in this particular letter, the 
problem is real. Shops are going out of business. Work formerly done here in the USA 
is now being outsourced to China. You don't see the Dell, IBM, and Compaq ads stating 
that you get such a great deal on a pc system because they outsource the stamping 
operations overseas for labor rates around $.27/ hour, do you?
In my opinion, the problem is different now than when the tariff laws were enacted. 
Originally they were intended to protect US businesses from unfair competition. Now, 
it's THE US businesses that want to take advantage of the cheap labor rates. Please 
correct me if I'm wrong on the tariff laws.
We build progressive stamping dies. The same projects quoted in China come in cheaper 
than what the steel alone would cost us here. This is true. They don't need a 
beautiful, complex progressive die to do a job. They will instead build a series of 
easy to design and build stage tooling and pay extra workers the low wages to move the 
parts from one stage die to the next.
I can verify the Caterpillar part of the letter. I read about it in a TMA newsletter 
here in the Chicago area.
Regards,

Chris Kocourek
Tool & Die Designer
Flextronics Tool & Design

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Likewise I could find no listing of a Scott R, Sando nor Elite Mold & Design
in Erie, Meadville, or anywhere else in Pennsylvania or neighboring Ohio and
New York.

Couldn't find a lead on Glenn Caspary either.

Apparently a hoax/chain letter, just more bull in the China shop.




> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Chris Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Rick Kerr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 2:29 PM
> Subject: Enlightening info
>
>
> > > BANKRUPTING THE UNITED STATES
> > >
> > > June 17, 2001
> > >
> > > Tool shops in the U.S. are going down due to the Chinese
> > > connection.

<SNIP>

> > > Talk to Caterpillar, they hit on the Chinese connection two years
> > > ago. Their D-9 diesel motor was tolled up and built In China.
> > > When Caterpillar buyers went over to check on progress they saw
> > > several sets of duplicate tools.  Now, two years later, the
> > > Chinese version of the D-9 diesel sells for about 20 cents on the
> > > dollar.
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