How would you
Re-start a G code program at the point of breakage?
Simple! If you have
a 1982 Bostomatic SPCII control. You can start anywhere you
want.
As far as the Fanuc
controls we have it's pretty well an impossibility when it comes to the
mills.
When a lathe tool
breaks in the middle of a can cycle with a Fanuc 6T control, you can stop the
lathe.
Change to manual.
Jog off the part. Change the broken insert. Jog back to where you were.
Switch back to
program and press cycle start.
Regards,
Michael
Senack
-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Wilshusen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 1:53 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [mfg-smartcam] Any Topic, and then some...It is true that Hurco has quite the DXF translator, and the Hurco Control is very capable. I got a Hurco Machine around the same time I moved from SmartCAM to EdgeCAM (about 2 years ago). Well, I have yet to generate any code with EdgeCAM, but I'm not machining any molds either, but if I was, the Hurco can run Industry Standard G code also :)One of the things I like about the Hurco Control is its ability to "Pattern" milling geometry. Just putting the geometry in different locations is one thing, but let say you break a tool. How would you Re-start a G code program at the point of breakage? Not a problem on the Hurco. its called "Recovery Restart" which allows you to start virtually anywhere in the middle of a program and not have to worry if you got all your Prep G codes read again. Go to http://www.hurco.com/products/controls/winmax.asp and download a copy of WinMax (its the offline software for the Hurco UltiMax Controls) it programs pretty much like the actually control. If anything you'll have fun messing with the patterning capabilities.
Jon Wilshusen Pre-Wel Mfg., Corp. Bus: 402-572-6929
10634 Bondesson Cir. 800-477-3735
Omaha, NE 68122 Fax: 402-572-0375
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- Original Message -----From: "Michael Senack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 11:43 AMSubject: RE: [mfg-smartcam] Any Topic, and then some...> Yes that is true. In fact, I just received this months issue
> of Modern Machine Shop, July 2002 and in it starting on page 80,
> there is an interesting article about STEP-NC.
>
> What I was referring to was a Hurco machining center that has
> CAM software that can read DXF files directly via a network
> or diskette. Then the operator slash programmer makes the
> program at the control, while the machine carries on manufacturing
> the other component that just took seconds to program.
>
> Now here is the annoying part. I was not invited to the demonstration
> of this machining center. Just the upper management personnel
> with the least amount of manufacturing experience. I just got to
> hear about it while being handed some brochures to read over for
> my opinion.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 11:12 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [mfg-smartcam] Any Topic, and then some...
>
>
> Michael,
>
> What you are describing is being developed using an extension of the STEP
> CAD format known as STEP-NC
>
> http://www.steptools.com/library/stepnc/index.html
> <http://www.steptools.com/library/stepnc/index.html>
>
> No G code is used, just the STEP-NC file sent to the control. I give them
> about 10 years to make it practical for the majority of CNC shops.
>
> =============================================
> Fred Lauzus, CAM Programming Coordinator
> High Steel Structures, Incorporated
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> http://www.highsteel.com <http://www.highsteel.com/>
> =============================================
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Senack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 10:11 AM
> To: 'Mark'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [mfg-smartcam] Any Topic, and then some...
>
>
> Yes I get allot of that "due to the "easy, slick" software that we all now
> use" stuff too.
> In fact it is the one step process where the operator at the machine center
> takes a DXF
> file from the vendor, and using the CAM software build into the machine
> controller, just
> does a simple click, click and click and then pushes the cycle start button
> and out pops
> the finished part! No CNC programmer required.
> It would be nice to have management actually come down to our level and get
> some
> hands on experience before listening to all these one stop solutions.
>
> Regards,
> Michael Senack
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 12:57 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [mfg-smartcam] Any Topic, and then some...
>
>
> Yes, our group has been slow... maybe still recovering from holiday..., who
> knows?
>
> All I can say is work has been busy for me.... I did somehow snag a vacation
> day for last Friday making for a long weekend of partying... back at the
> front however we are buried. As a major supplier of aerospace parts we took
> a hit with 911 and laid off 1/3 of our employees. Things have turned
> around and now we have a solid load of work. Being in a small mountain
> community, we can not seem to hire enough people, right now..... We are
> trying to hire enough personnel to start 2nd shift up again, in the
> meantime, everyone that has a pulse is working non-stop. With a new 3 year
> contract with our major customer we are buried solid with work.
>
> As a programmer, myself and my partner are maintaining 60+ CNC machines. I
> use SmartCam and he uses Teksoft, both of us with about 12 years experience
> at these software packages and about 35 years programming experience, and
> 50+ years machining, combined. We are keeping up, but that is it. We are
> fortunate to work for a company that values efficiency in producing
> programs, verses, synchronizing software.
>
> I do check the list every night and occasionally respond.
>
> As far as your topics for this thread, (Speeds & feeds, locking out editing,
> and programmer salary) I will plead brain dead at this time..(tonite, past
> bedtime) I WILL say that programmers were of major value during the late
> 80's and early 90's. Unfortunately our salary has been devaluated (by
> management) due to the "easy, slick" software that we all now use.
> (anybody can do it... right!) don't get me started....!
>
> Hoping the group is all still alive....
>
> P.S. Plenty of job opportunities, here... Inquire OFF the list only for
> info...
>
> Mark Chambers
> Programming Manager
> Fortner Aerospace Mfg.
> Prescott, AZ
>
>
> At 10:17 PM 7/11/02 , you wrote:
>
>
> I'm open for suggestions if anyone wants to discuss anything.
> Fire Away!
>
> I'll start, What SFM and IPM do you machine 6060-T6 Alum. with for
> carbide drills and end mills?
>
> How about a 5" dia. face mill when skimming a .030 depth of cut?
>
> Does anyone use Parlec vises? How do you like them?
>
> I've asked before but would you all like to share .PM4 files to show
> how you set up differant parts on the machines?
>
> Do you use the .PM4 files as setup documentation for the operators to setup
> the machine?
>
> Whats your views of locking out the machine control to stop operator
> preferance editting?
> We have operators that slow down tooling because they just don't want to run
> it at the
> recomended speed and feed. Should they be wrote up or fired for slowing
> production?
>
> If your shop runs a three shift operation do you have programmers to cover
> all three shifts?
>
> What salary do programmers in your shop make?
>
> Thanks,
> Jeff Pieper
> EATON Hydraulics
>
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