Hi all,    I am forwarding my views on the dialogue going on about the new 
Mental health care bill and opposition to it by the IPS. "Greatness lies not in 
never falling but in rising everytime we fall"Captain Johann samuhanand,  
BANGALORE  INDIA91 80  42023252   www.captainjohann.blogspot.com  


     On Tuesday, 24 March 2015 9:36 PM, captainjohann samuhanand 
<[email protected]> wrote:
   
 

 
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From: captainjohann samuhanand <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 7:28 PM
Subject: Re: Include mental health in UN millennium goals: 'The Hindu' -India- 
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Dear Doctor Saheb,       I have been reading with interest the mail you sent 
about the New mental health care bill and the Psychiatrists opposition to it.. 
What was worrying is that the bill was prepared by a Psychiatrist from Pune who 
is expert on these legal issues but still IPS is opposed to it. Your views  
about advance directive and other cliches to which many of us agree, why was 
IPS was keeping silent all these years of preparation? Now as a carer of a 
single child with schizophrrenia I want to ask the IPS some questions.  1 Do 
you feel that all Schizophrenics are cured and it does not leave any 
disability?   2. If a Schizophrrenic starts taking bath and puts flowers on her 
head but does NOT work and not capable of work, will she be called disabled or 
cured by IPS?  3. The National Trust controlled by Carers of Austistic and 
mentally retarded children give out disability certificates under Local level 
committes. Will not similar tyupe of arrangement good for the Mnetally ill 
disabled? Why the Psychiatric communkity wants to be part of Dsisabled 
community.  4.IDEAS scale and is it not important the way to free from 
disability is a person to be able to work and if that person scores 100% in 
other parameters but does not work, what is the use for family who have to look 
after them life long with a seperate TV and plenty of Pepsi bottles.? 5. A 
carer of central government have to go to court to appoint a guardian while in 
case of others it is the parents who appoint the guardian? What role IPS plays 
in perpetuating this situation? 6.  I am puttting the latest census figures on 
the disablity figures and the national trust and private Psychiatrists know 
thatGovernment works on Statistics and they succeeded while we have to depend 
on Psychiatrists and the medical board and IDEAS scale which is interpreted in 
favour of ' CURED ' WHICH seems to favour for increasing Mental health budget 
and clinical trials as like in Indore. 7. What is take on wandering mentally 
ill by IPS?   Please go through the statistics carefully and do you feel does 
it reflect the correct picture and who is responsible?   For  me the single 
important qustion is  AFTER ME WHOM? IPS just do not care for the answer is my 
personal view.   With kind regards.   Print Press Information Bureau 
Government of India
Ministry of Social Justice & Empowerment 
24-February-2015 17:23 IST     Rehabilitation Programmes/Schemes for Mentally 
Retarded Persons 

  As per Census 2011, there are 22,28,450 persons with Mental Retardation and 
Mental Illness in the country.Population of such persons, state-wise is:
|  Annexure referred to in reply to part (a) of Lok Sabha Unstarred Question 
No. 106 for Answer on 24.02.15 regarding Rehabilitation Programme/Schemes for  
Mentally Retarded Persons  |
|  S. No.  |  State  |  Mental Retardation  |  Mental Illness  |  Total  |
|  1  |  Andhra Pradesh  |  132380  |  43169  |  175549  |
|  2  |  Arunachal Pradesh  |  1264  |  631  |  1895  |
|  3  |  Assam  |  26374  |  18819  |  45193  |
|  4  |  Bihar  |  89251  |  37521  |  126772  |
|  5  |  Chhattisgarh  |  33171  |  20832  |  54003  |
|  6  |  Delhi  |  16338  |  10046  |  26384  |
|  7  |  Goa  |  1817  |  1675  |  3492  |
|  8  |  Gujarat  |  66393  |  42037  |  108430  |
|  9  |  Haryana  |  30070  |  16191  |  46261  |
|  10  |  Himachal Pradesh  |  8986  |  5166  |  14152  |
|  11  |  J&K  |  16724  |  15669  |  32393  |
|  12  |  Jharkhand  |  37458  |  20157  |  57615  |
|  13  |  Karnataka  |  93974  |  20913  |  114887  |
|  14  |  Kerala  |  65709  |  66915  |  132624  |
|  15  |  Madhya Pradesh  |  77803  |  39513  |  117316  |
|  16  |  Maharashtra  |  160209  |  58753  |  218962  |
|  17  |  Manipur  |  4506  |  1405  |  5911  |
|  18  |  Mizoram  |  1585  |  1050  |  2635  |
|  19  |  Meghalaya  |  2332  |  2340  |  4672  |
|  20  |  Nagaland  |  1250  |  995  |  2245  |
|  21  |  Odisha  |  72399  |  42837  |  115236  |
|  22  |  Punjab  |  45070  |  21925  |  66995  |
|  23  |  Rajasthan  |  81389  |  41047  |  122436  |
|  24  |  Sikkim  |  516  |  513  |  1029  |
|  25  |  Tamil Nadu  |  100847  |  32964  |  133811  |
|  26  |  Tripura  |  4307  |  2909  |  7216  |
|  27  |  Uttar Pradesh  |  181342  |  76603  |  257945  |
|  28  |  Uttarakhand  |  11450  |  6443  |  17893  |
|  29  |  West Bengal  |  136523  |  71515  |  208038  |
|  30  |  A&N Islands  |  294  |  364  |  658  |
|  31  |  Chandigarh  |  1090  |  756  |  1846  |
|  32  |  Daman & Diu  |  176  |  89  |  265  |
|  33  |  D& N Haveli  |  180  |  115  |  295  |
|  34  |  Lakshadweep  |  112  |  96  |  208  |
|  35  |  Puducherry  |  2335  |  853  |  3188  |
|     |  Total  |  1505624  |  722826  |  2228450  |

 In the 12th Five Year Plan it has been envisagedto establish a National 
Institute for Mental Health Rehabilitation (NIMHR). TheGovt. has already 
initiated action such as identification of consultancy forestablishment of the 
aforesaid Institute at Bhopal. In the 12th Five Year Plan, an amount of Rs 
50crore is available for establishment of NIMHR. This information was given by 
theMinister of State for Social Justice and Empowerment, Shri Krishan Pal 
Gurjarin a written reply to a question in Lok Sabha here today.*****NCJ/ASB     
      

On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 5:18 AM, Roy Kallivayalil <[email protected]> wrote:

Dear Ricardo,
Nice to hear from you. With all best wishes,RegardsRoy
Prof Roy Abraham KallivayalilSecretary General, World Psychiatric Association
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 3:45 PM, Ricardo Guinea <[email protected]> wrote:

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Dear all;

Thanks for the information.
I’m forwarding this mail to our WAPR Executive Committee for information.
Regards

Dr. Ricardo Guinea.
President Elect WAPR
[email protected] 
www.wapr.info 



El 13/03/15 08:10, "Facem India" <[email protected]> escribió:


Dear Dr.Kallivayalil,

Heartiest congrats for taking mental health to the lofty peaks of  the UN 
Sustainable Developmental Goals. I truly appreciate  your stand on Policy 
advocacy for inclusion under SDGs. However, as you realise unless 
accountability of the State is pinned down in terms of implementation, UN's 
efforts will prove futile. This is  the tragedy  we are currently facing in 
India. 

The rights based MHC bill 2013  is held up in the Ministry of Health , GOI due 
to objections raised  from mental health professionals especially 
psychiatrists. The urgency in passing this Bill is to make the State 
accountable for the delivery of MH services in the country. It is so because 
this Bill has made mental health a fundamental right; it has also made 
accessibility to MH services as a right. This is  the only hope for family care 
givers because it ensures a package of emergency and crisis services , 
continued and long term care etc.etc. Above all, by bringing Mental health 
under NCDs, the GOI has broad based the services from specialist driven to 
system's driven service so that the shortage of qualified professionals can be 
tackled somewhat besides de stigmatising mental health. 

I therefore request your support  for legal advocacy in addition to policy 
advocacy  to establish true partnership with families ( that obviously includes 
user patients). Your present office as  Sec.General of WPA is most ideally 
equipped for carrying the mission of legal advocacy with the Govt of India / 
MoHFW. The Budget session is scheduled to end by 23rd and hence plesae hasten 
your initiative. 

As usual, I am sure you will send me a prompt response on the action taken. war 
wishes
ns 










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