On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 13:12 -0400, Chris Knadle wrote:
> On Tuesday 02 September 2008, Allen Weiner wrote:
> > I have a spare PC which I'm considering putting to use. It is a Dell
> > Dimension L566cx, eight years old: Celeron 566 mHz, 192 MB RAM, 10 GB
> > HDD, CD/RW drive (no DVD drive), integrated NIC, USB ports are USB 1.0
> > only.
> 
>    Mostly sounds fine for what you want to use it for.
> 
> > possible uses for my spare PC.
> 
> ...
> > Use 0:  Spare PC:
> >
> >    Stand-alone spare. The PC runs Knoppix 5.1.1 Live CD.
> 
>    It'll run but performance will be somewhat poor due to low RAM.
> 
> > Use 1:  Router/Firewall:
> >
> >     Due to power consumption of this PC, I would use the PC as a router
> > only occasionally.
> 
>    I found using a really old PC as a firewall to be low in reliability, but 
> it works.
> 
Could you give some examples of problems you encountered.


>    Old boxes like these are also good as a testbed for server software 
> components.
> 
Could you give some examples. I have zero exposure to servers.



> 
> > Q1: Given my specific hardware, is there a distro which would give me
> > greater flexibility and/or provide a more extensive learning experience
> > than specialized firewall/router distros like Ipcop and Smoothwall?
> 
>    Any Linux distro should be capable of turning a box into a firewall -- as 
> long as you load iptables, which is not always loaded by default.

I was under the impression that in order to get the iptables
functionality for routing, the kernel needed to be compiled with a bunch
of "routing" options specified. Am I wrong?


> 
> > Use 2: Networked PC
> >
> >   Using an ethernet crossover cable, connect spare PC to my primary PC
> > to form a LAN. I don't need a LAN, but this could provide an opportunity
> > to learn more about networking and NFS. I don't have a second keyboard,
> > monitor, or mouse. I don't want to buy a KVM switch.
> >
> > Q2: Is there a way to network my spare PC with my primary PC with the
> > spare PC being headless?
> 
>    Yes, but at minimum you should buy another keyboard, because hot-swapping 
> a 
> PS2 keyboard is bad and risks damage.  (Hot-swapping a USB keyboard is fine.) 
>  
> You can run services on the headless machine to let you log into it, such as 
> ssh, ftp, samba, etc.  Remote graphics can work also, with X over ssh, NX, 
> and/or VNC.
> 
I didn't have in mind swapping the keyboard between PCs. I envisioned
having the keyboard permanently attached to the primary PC. I thought
maybe I could use the primary PC as a remote-serial-console just to
bring up the second PC. Once the second PC is up, I could then use
something like SSH to connect to it. Is something like this feasible?


>    -- Chris
> 
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