Mark Wallace wrote:
> When my cell phone is turned off, it goes directly to voicemail without 
> ringing the phone.  This means that they have to scan their entire 
> network for it in a second or two (I might be in New York or 
> California).  If what you say is true.

I know very little about the mechanics of cellular, but I expect the way that 
it works is there is some system that is recording the last tower to have 
communicated with your phone.  If no handshake has happened for a while, it 
assumes your phone is off or unavailable.  So it doesn't have to scan the 
entire network, it just has to check a flag in a database.

It should be easy enough to test this: take the battery out of your phone and 
see if there's any difference WRT the way that voicemail behaves.

> 
> I was also told by law enforcement that they can find a turned off cell 
> phone if they try hard enough (It would have to be at the level of a 
> missing person investigation, not a lost cell phone)

Could you ask them how?  I'd be very surprised if it's by virtue of some 
communication feature of the cell phone.  As Mike K pointed out,  we wouldn't 
be allowed to bring a cellphone on board a plane at all if it were able to 
transmit while turned off. 

> 
> It is still using some power when it is turned off, because it will run 
> the battery dead in a few days turned off, so it might still be giving 
> some sort of signal.  I think more than the passive burn that a battery 
> does when it is in a turned off appliance, the burn caused by contact of 
> the battery with the heads.

I always assumed that was more due to the properties of that kind of battery 
than activity within the cellphone.  Again, this is easy enough to test: take 
a fully charged battery out of the phone for a few days, put it back in and 
check the levels.  Turn the phone off for the same amount of time, turn it 
back on and check the levels.

> 
> A flash light battery left with the batteries in it will go dead because 
> of the passive connection, we are talking about the turned off cell 
> phone still doing something.
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