On Friday, October 28, 2011 03:15:12 PM, Matthias Johnson wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 2:47 PM, Chris Knadle 
<[email protected]>wrote:
> > The only other thing I'll mention is that if you go to install Win 7 that
> > it
> > WILL blow away the MBR in the process and thus remove Grub2 from the MBR.
> > 
> >  If
> > 
> > you want to replace XP with Win 7 it would be easier to do that FIRST and
> > then
> > to reinstall Ubuntu, such that Grub2 will be installed after Windows. 
> > The other next-best option is to get a grub2 rescue CD (yes such a thing
> > exists:
> > in Debian/Ubuntu the package with the ISO in it is called grub-rescue-pc)
> > and
> > then learn how to deal with the grub2 command line in order to reinstall
> > it into the MBR after it's been blown away.  I believe I've had that
> > happen after
> > having to "rescue" Windows.
> 
> Another thing to keep in mind is the 200 MB recovery partition 7 creates
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Recovery_Environment.  It apparently
> doesn't follow standard use of sectors when partitioning though I
> haven't personally looked.
> http://www.mydigitallife.info/how-to-avoid-200mb-hidden-system-partition-fr
> om-been-created-during-windows-7-installation/

I happen to have Win 7 on my laptop along with Debian and I found something 
mildly interesting; here's my partition table:

Disk /dev/sda: 750.2 GB, 750156374016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 91201 cylinders, total 1465149168 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x01c0ffee

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *        2048      206847      102400    7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
/dev/sda2          206848   716802047   358297600    7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
/dev/sda3      1452971520  1465143119     6085800   12  Compaq diagnostics
/dev/sda4       716804094  1452969983   368082945    5  Extended
Partition 4 does not start on physical sector boundary.
/dev/sda5       716804096   716996607       96256   83  Linux
/dev/sda6       716998656   732620799     7811072   82  Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sda7       732622848   791214079    29295616   83  Linux
/dev/sda8       791216128  1452969983   330876928   83  Linux


It looks to me like partition 3 is the recovery partition for Win 7, not 
partition 1.  Also, partition 3 has been physically placed at the end of the 
disk, rather than consecutively after Win 7's main partition.  I don't know 
what partition 1 is for sure, but it looks too small to be a recovery 
partition; I think it's mainly a boot loader area, very similar to the /boot 
ext2 filesystem I have at partition 5.  Grub2 is installed in the MBR, so 
although partition 1 is set as bootable, that's not what is actually initially 
booted, as the MBR itself takes precedence.

> I tried having linux and 7 on the same drive unsuccessfully without an
> additional drive for lilo to be written to.  You may have better luck
> with grub2 and the drive was only a 40 SSD so with 7's constant increase
> in size with every windows update I decided to just have one OS anyway.

For whatever reason, when I had Win Vista (ick) on my laptop, grub2 would 
misidentify the Windows partition and the Windows recovery partition, so I had 
to remember to choose the "recovery" entry to boot Windows.  I haven't had any 
issues at all after installing Win 7.

> Many people have both so it is possible
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
> The thing I would be curious about is whether you can use the
> recovery partition when not if windows takes a crap.

Both are listed automatically by grub2, although I haven't tried booting the 
recovery choice after installing Win 7.  It worked under Vista, though 
(although as I mentioned it was misnamed as it was the "normal" choice rather 
than the "recovery" choice).

  -- Chris

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