I've never run 13. It is possible that the boot up problem is a new
bug, as 14 has only been out a short time. I did hear about it on the
web, so I am not alone. I did a one distro only install on a zero
filled hard drive, so it has to be a Mint 14 problem.
I also hope that, if they get six months or so to work on it, they can
solve their lack of mirrors problem. I don't know what the politics or
economics of getting a university to serve as a mirror site are, so I
don't know. I think that Mint has great possibilities!
At one time MHVLUG may have been a Slackware mirror, but I don't know if
we still are. Slackware is no way a waitress distro, and those are the
only ones that I follow.
I even configure my desktop to look like Windows for the waitress test,
going so far as to reduce the multiple desktops to one, deleting the
taskbar icon and using Windows like icons and window borders.
The last time somebody used my laptop, he didn't realize that he wasn't
sitting at Windows!! But he does realize that Windows XP is an
antiquated system that they are going to stop supporting next year, so
he needs a plan B. He is my target.
My other targets are third world entities who cobble together desktops
out of scraps and then put pirated versions of Windows in them. The
pirated installs won't download security patches from Microsoft, and for
that reason often won't run anti-virus software, so they are very
vulnerable. One college in the Philippines had a virus get into their
mainframe which wiped out entire semesters full of grades. Legal
systems in countries like that won't enforce Microsoft patents.
And I can't believe this but the last time that I checked Hudson Valley
Federal Credit Union still had Windows Millennium at some of their
teller's windows!
China is 1/4 of the world's population and adopted Linux as their
desktop standard. They have a government sponsored distro of Linux
(red hat and red book?). That is why I think that eventually Linux will
become the standard and Windows will go the way of the 8 track tape player.
I can't believe that Microsoft would be stupid enough to stop supporting
XP on schedule, unless they offered the remaining users some sort of
free upgrade, but I am old enough to remember the New Coke and the Edsel.
On 12-12-27 05:27 PM, Al Jachimiak wrote:
I'm sure your complaints are valid.
In support of LinuxMint, I've been running 13 as my main machine for over six
months with very little complain about. The only issue I've found problematic
was a window management issue in Inkscape - which totally could be a Inkscape
issue.
Cheers,
Al
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On Dec 27, 2012, at 3:20 PM, Mark Wallace <[email protected]> wrote:
I installed Linux Mint 14 Mate edition and it lasted about a week. It's gone
because of the following problems.
Their server capacity is inadequate and it was hard to update. Ubuntu has 500
mirrors world wide, Mint only has a couple of dozen.
There are less packages available on their mirrors than on Ubuntu's.
The install frequently doesn't boot up properly. That can be fixed by toggling
the system restore, but remember this is the waitress test and that is a fatal
error (The waitress test is, if I gave a CD to the waitress at the Palace
Diner, could she get it up and running on her system in an evening without
help. It also has to be one distro, one desktop and one operating system
because she doesn't want to spend a lot of time maintaining her pc and she
doesn't compile.)
I wound up doing an install of Xubuntu, then adding Mate and taking Xubuntu out. That required
cutting and pasting command code which also flunks the waitress test. I think that at some point,
Ubuntu will invent "Mubuntu" a long term support distro with Mate or maybe
"Cubuntu" with Cinnamon, but in the meantime we should give her Lubuntu.
That's in case it is an older system. Lubuntu the only one that will still
support a 386 processor). Then, if she finds LXDE a little basic or rough cut,
tell her to try adding KDE or Xubuntu through the package manager. If she puts
KDE in, she should immediately disable the desktop effects and Nepomuk. She
can experiment with them later when she is sure that she is fully installed and
configured.
KDE also has a package called nofat kde or something like that which changes
some settings to better work with legacy processors.
Unless you are SURE that she has a 64 bit system or a state of the art system.
But most people who are playing with Linux for the first time try it on an
older system, and most of the Ubuntu CD's will only tell her that the CD
doesn't support her processor and self abort.
Linux Mint 14, Mate edition has a lot of potential, but the Mint people are
struggling to service it properly.
Mark
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PO Box 11144
Newburgh, NY 12552-1114
Telephone: (845) 541-7396
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Jan 9 - High Performance Computing at a Small Scale
Feb 6 - Raspberry Pi
Mar 6 - 10th Anniversary Meeting - Linux where you least expect it
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PO Box 11144
Newburgh, NY 12552-1114
Telephone: (845) 541-7396
_______________________________________________
Mid-Hudson Valley Linux Users Group http://mhvlug.org
http://mhvlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mhvlug
Upcoming Meetings (6pm - 8pm) Vassar College
Jan 9 - High Performance Computing at a Small Scale
Feb 6 - Raspberry Pi
Mar 6 - 10th Anniversary Meeting - Linux where you least expect it
