New attempt at the stream hangs and Firefox says "waiting for Ustream" It seems to be a ustream file. I thought that they worked with flash player unmodified but I am not having other problems with flash player.

Mark


On Friday, 09 August, 2013 01:01 AM, Mark Wallace wrote:
It could also be that they want you to download a piece of windows software that tells them your life story.

Topic closed. You would think that they would know if their stream audience dropped to zero as expatriates working overseas are a big part of their listenership.

Mark


-------- Original Message --------
Subject:        Re: [mhvlug] Unable to play stream
Date:   Thu, 08 Aug 2013 12:51:47 -0400
From:   Michael Muller <[email protected]>
To:     Mark Wallace <[email protected]>



Mark Wallace wrote:
> Your hyperlinks opened and played through the browser.  The target is in
> the Philippines and it wouldn't be the first non-standard thing that I
> ever saw there, where people offer me DVD's of windows 7 for nothing
> (pirated). Linux hasn't caught on there like I thought that it would
> because it's so easy to get pirated microsoft software.
>
> Is it possible that, on the other end, that the server is looking for
> something in Windows?

Sure, it's possible.  Though, without knowing the source of the original m3u
file, it seems more likely that it's just a broken file - somebody changed the
meaning ofhttp://bomboradyo.com/stations/am/cagayan-de-oro  and left a static
m3u file that referenced it unchanged.  Do you know if it plays for anyone on
Windows?

(BTW, your last reponse didn't copy the mhvlug list, I encourage you to do so
just to close off on the topic :-)

>
> thanks to all for the help.
>
> Mark
>
>
> On Thursday, 08 August, 2013 10:04 PM, Michael Muller wrote:
> > Mark Wallace wrote:
> >> It's very standard.   It is a button on the web page that says: "Listen
> >> now."  When you click on it, the decoder realizes that it's a stream
> >> rather than a web page and opens the default media player instead of the
> >> web browser.
> > I was referring to the contents of Listen.m3u, which is the only thing you
> > presented.  I suspect that someone may be doing something non-standard there
> > because the URL listed in the m3u is an HTML page, not an MP3 or some other
> > mime-type indicative of an audio stream.  So I wouldn't expect any player to
> > be able to play it unless the server serving the page is looking for a
> > specific agent type or "Accepts" header and only serving an audio stream if 
it
> > decides that the client can handle it.
> >
> > When you click on a button on a web page, what happens is pretty much up to
> > the web page.  Most of the web radio stations I've seen embed their own
> > player, though I guess you can usually get an m3u file containing the URLs 
of
> > the raw streams.  And I'm guessing that m3u file is what that button gave 
you.
> > Here's an example m3u file I just pulled from a site Joe Apuzzo mentioned on
> > chat a while ago:
> >
> >http://94.25.53.133:80/ultra-128.mp3
> >http://94.25.53.132:80/ultra-128.mp3
> >
> > You see how these have .mp3 extensions?  That doesn't mean very much, what
> > really matters is the mime-type that comes back from the server when you 
pull
> > those URLs.  But the point is I can point any mp3 player at either of those
> > URLs and play music (Metallica, currently).  Because they are, in fact, MP3
> > files.
> >
> > If I point an MP3 player at the URL you gave me, I get:
> >
> > [mpg123.c:560] error: Unknown mpeg MIME type text/html; charset=utf-8 - is 
it
> > perhaps a playlist (use -@)?
> > [mpg123.c:561] error: If you know the stream is mpeg1/2 audio, then please
> > report this as mpg123 bug
> >
> > This is not an mpg123 bug: that URL is giving back HTML, not mpeg audio.  So
> > either somebody is trying to do something clever and non-standard, or 
whoever
> > is serving up your Listen.m3u file gave you a bad file. :-)
> >
> >> I had this problem a few years ago and forget how I solved it.
> >>
> >> The way I am configured now, it reopens the web site rather than start
> >> the stream.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thursday, 08 August, 2013 01:06 AM, Michael Muller wrote:
> >>> Mark Wallace wrote:
> >>>> the error message is generated when python couldn't find a decoder.
> >>>> Although any text editor would open the file, python needs something so
> >>>> that it can play it. The "Listen.m3u" file is 49 is only 49 bytes in
> >>>> size.  Here is the entire contents of it opened in puma.
> >>>>
> >>>>http://bomboradyo.com/stations/am/cagayan-de-oro
> >>> This appears to be a link to an HTML page, so I'm not surprised that a 
media
> >>> player couldn't play it.  It looks like the page contains links to a 
number of
> >>> station pages with embedded players, I clicked on three of them and none
> >>> report to be currently on the air.
> >>>
> >>> Wherever you got this file from, I'm guessing somebody is trying to do
> >>> something clever and non-standard - I don't think you'll be able to play 
this
> >>> on any media player except possibly one that the provider had in mind.
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wednesday, 07 August, 2013 03:40 AM, Matthias Johnson wrote:
> >>>>> That is a playlist, m3u are just an index of the files.  They are most
> >>>>> common in scene releases of music.  The m3u will contain a list of the
> >>>>> files in the release so you can see what is missing and preserve order
> >>>>> without having to have track numbers in the file names or id3 tags.
> >>>>> If opened with VLC it will play the files in the order listed.  But if
> >>>>> those files don't exist it does nothing.  What is the contents of the
> >>>>> m3u? Any text reader should be able to read it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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