markandwilmawallace wrote: > The McDonalds router looks for patterns in shapes that are passing > through it. For instance a certain shape might be a womans bare side. > It then flags the surfing and the manager is supposed to check it out, > or that's what the manager at the McDonalds in Niagara Falls, Ontario > told me.
This manager was probably either lying or misinformed. I'm not sure what the state of the art of image recognition is, but it seems much more likely that if you were going to guard against abuse, you'd do so with an address blacklist. But in any case, the problem of encryption and address hiding remains. A router can't see a pattern if its in an encrypted stream, and it can't tell which address you're ultimately connected to if you're connecting through TOR. And breaking encryption is hard. The NSA might be able to do it, but McDonalds service provider almost certainly can't. > > Mark > > > > On Saturday, 24 August, 2013 12:30 AM, dragorn wrote: > > Posted this on irc, but: > > > > "Security is hard" > > "Cryptography is harder." > > > > http://secupost.net/2325962497/bitmessage-security > > > > Bitmessage extremely vulnerable and insecure. > > > > -m > > > > On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 09:17:32AM -0400, Michael Muller wrote: > >> Mark and Wilma Wallace wrote: > >>> I agree but judges with subpoena powers won't feel in a catch 22 no > >>> matter how much security you have. The minimum sentence for possessing > >> Yes, but if you're using good encryption end to end, then that judge has to > >> subpoena a party in the conversation. And the jury is still out on whether > >> you can be compelled to decrypt your own data in response to a court order: > >> > >> https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/07/new-eff-amicus-forced-decryption-unconstitutional > >> > >> But the point is to force that conversation. If someone is reading your > >> e-mail you should at least know about it. > >> > >>> child pornography is five years and and the McDonald's router would find > >>> it so fast that your head would spin. A McDonald's manager told me that > >>> the router gives off a signal and he has orders from on high to walk the > >>> dining area and see who is surfing for what. > >> If a McDonald's router can sniff Tor, I will leave my current job and go > >> work > >> at McDonald's :-) > >> > >>> Mark > >>> > >>> > >>> On Tuesday, 20 August, 2013 06:24 AM, Chris Knadle wrote: > >>>> On 2013-08-19 18:14, Mark and Wilma Wallace wrote: > >>>>> The only truly secure way to transmit something is to walk over to > >>>>> the guy > >>>>> and whisper in his ear. I was told to never send anything in an > >>>>> email or > >>>>> post anything on the internet that you wouldn't want to see on page > >>>>> one of > >>>>> the New York Times. > >>>> If you know ahead of time that each system your email is going to pass > >>>> through supports ESMTPS then you can at least have an idea that the email > >>>> isn't going to be _easily_ "snooped". > >>>> > >>>> -- Chris > >>>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Robert Mark Wallace > >>> 60 Delaware Road > >>> Newburgh, NY 12550-3802 > >>> Telephone: (845) 541-7396 > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Mid-Hudson Valley Linux Users Group http://mhvlug.org > >>> http://mhvlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mhvlug > >>> > >>> Upcoming Meetings (6pm - 8pm) Vassar College > >>> Sep 4 - NoSQL and MongoDB > >>> Oct 2 - OpenFlow: Open Standard for Networking Hardware > >>> Nov 6 - November Meeting > >>> > >> > >> ============================================================================= > >> michaelMuller = [email protected] | http://www.mindhog.net/~mmuller > >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> We are the music-makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams > >> - Arthur O'Shaughnessy > >> ============================================================================= > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Mid-Hudson Valley Linux Users Group http://mhvlug.org > >> http://mhvlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mhvlug > >> > >> Upcoming Meetings (6pm - 8pm) Vassar College > >> Sep 4 - NoSQL and MongoDB > >> Oct 2 - OpenFlow: Open Standard for Networking Hardware > >> Nov 6 - November Meeting > > _______________________________________________ > Mid-Hudson Valley Linux Users Group http://mhvlug.org > http://mhvlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mhvlug > > Upcoming Meetings (6pm - 8pm) Vassar College > Sep 4 - NoSQL and MongoDB > Oct 2 - OpenFlow: Open Standard for Networking Hardware > Nov 6 - November Meeting > ============================================================================= michaelMuller = [email protected] | http://www.mindhog.net/~mmuller ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain control. - Thomas Jefferson ============================================================================= _______________________________________________ Mid-Hudson Valley Linux Users Group http://mhvlug.org http://mhvlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mhvlug Upcoming Meetings (6pm - 8pm) Vassar College Sep 4 - NoSQL and MongoDB Oct 2 - OpenFlow: Open Standard for Networking Hardware Nov 6 - November Meeting
