Well, in the 70's when I was a teenager, there were gas lines. In the first
1973 crisis, my uncle drove us around and told us to look for the cheapest
gas. It was about 42 cents.  Then we had several years of afro's on white
people, huge lapel's, disco, and really scarce jobs with manufacturing
crumbling.  Just when we started to dig out despite rampant inflation, along
comes the Ayatollah, hostage crisis, and fuel shock number two.  I got out
of high school, was *lucky* to get job as dishwasher, and headed south for a
construction hardhat job lead in a nuclear plant.  While waiting for that
job to materialize, I had to scrape by and my local church helped me get a
job on nightshift at a huge chemical plant bagging polymer feedstock. The
fence had 50 guys pulling applications from between the gate bars for 2
openings. I got one of the 2 job openings. Smell was brutal in "chemical
city" and I was constantly nauseous.  Within days the skin peeled off my
hands and feet from 12 hour overnight shifts bagging and stacking that
sticky stuff.   It was BAD times.  NYC had brownouts and so on, no work
anywhere and even where I was - the oil patch - was only shades better, with
Michigan plates everywhere as displaced auto workers flooded in.   things
slowly recovered over the next 2 or 3 years.

 

In 1990 when that was ancient history for me, we had a state banking crisis
and the governor blundered into CLOSING all the CREDIT UNIONS.  My employer
immediately closed and barely could pay us our last check. I ended up
working for free to get some training in microcomputers.  Things slowly
recovered over the next 2 or 3 years.

 

But this time, the situation has some new instability as we run into hard
resource limits.  It will be interesting as this sorts itself out.  No doubt
the technology we have today will be a help.  Can we make the transition
without food and energy shortages crippling our economy?   We'll see.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Murray, Richard
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 4:19 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: NPC: OK, I get it now. Gas prices are high!

 

Yes, I have seen nothing yet. 

By no means is the current economic and political situation as bad as it has
been before. Dig out the history books (not those conspiracy theory
manifests) and look up the last banking crisis induced recession, or the
inflationary 70's and 80's and you may think we are on some kind of very
slow merry-go-round.

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Cooper
Sent: Wednesday, 09 July, 2008 13:58
To: Flash.
Cc: <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: NPC: OK, I get it now. Gas prices are high!

This is all I am going to say.... prepare. 

You ain't seen nothing yet.  

(Have you looked at your 401K or IRA balance lately?)

Back to regularly scheduled  power content....

Flash. wrote: 

im at work.  for a bank.  you're paying for the electric power with your
home, credit card or car loan.  thanks

 

btw, im  using a laptop with a flat screen, so my imprint is fairly low in
this case, atm.

 

On 7/9/08,  <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

Might I suggest you save energy by turning off your computer? :)

I agree with McElwee's comments, it hits home when you fill the lawn
mower... bet you can't find a neighborhood kid to mow your yard for $5
anymore!

Wallyman



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Re: NPC: OK, I get it now. Gas prices are high!

       

i thought we were steering away from the political crap?

The fact is fuel costs are not going to go down. What are you doing to
reduce your reliance on energy?

How many KW per day did your home consume last month? I was at 17 on the
lowest day. Far too high. that's power from coal that we mine here in the
US. I spend a few hundred a month on fuel from oil for my car.


On 7/8/08, Robert McElwee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

Today it finally sunk in. I was filling up all the gas cans for my lawnmower
(something I only do once every 6-12 months). I didn't even get the 2nd one
full and the pump cut off. I looked up and it had cut off because I hit $50!
I looked down and saw the two cans and almost fainted. It was an eye opening
moment. I hit the credit card for another $50 and left with 4 not so full
cans...

But hey, at least are presidential candidates are patriots, wear a flag pin,
and know what a loaf of bread costs.


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