Well; it's really not done yet, but I have gone back and pulled in my
utility bills and weather data for the last 4 -5 years to do
comparisons.

The first year of the remodel there was no insulation and very good
ventilation through the house. I was lucky if the house got up to 69F
that first winter. Fortunately the dogs were not living with me that
winter. It was kind of like living in a tent. In fact until the
carpenters closed the second story in, in late October, it was a tent. 

I spent the first year putting in electrical conduit, rough plumbing,
and going around putting in brackets to strap the roof to the top
plates, to the studs, to the bottom plates, ring shank nails to tie the
bottom plate to the floor and joists, etc. I also had to rewire the
original first floor because all the wiring was just left hanging draped
over the walls. Per my standards I used conduit for that too. And
finally a little foam insulation.

 

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From: Bill Cardell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, 10 July, 2008 21:08
To: Murray, Richard; Eric McCord
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected]
Subject: RE: OK, I get it now. Gas prices are high!

 

Sounds like quite the project! Has it been done long enough to compare
costs?

 

Bill Cardell 
TurboDog's Dad 
www.flyinmiata.com 
www.fmwestfield.com 
Sales 1-800-359-6957 
Tech 970-464-5600 Before you call, check out
http://www.flyinmiata.com/FAQ/ 
Come to our Open House! August 14-17 

 

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Murray, Richard
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 12:59 PM
To: Eric McCord
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected]
Subject: RE: OK, I get it now. Gas prices are high!

"Green" costs a lot less if it is designed in from the beginning rather
than retrofitted later. From what I have seen and read a newly designed
"green" commercial building can cost less than 10% more than a
traditional design. The higher cost is probably for more plumbing and
electrical controls.

I too live in Michigan near Pontiac (where I work) but I decided to
design my house remodel to be as energy efficient as possible; given the
restraints of an existing building on a narrow North and South lot.

Direct solar heating or electrical is out of the question, but I added a
sloping bump in the roof with south facing vertical windows. They are
not as large as I wanted, but I have managed to turn the lemons into
lemonade by designing an awning that reflects more light into the house
through the windows in the winter and away in the summer. The windows
facing East and West also are tilted to face South as much as I could
get by the zoning setback requirements. I am working on reflective sun
screens for those windows too. When I replace them, the north facing
windows will be as small as the building code allows.

I got the most reflective standing seam metal roof I could. Solar
heating in the winter is not practical, but rejecting solar gain in the
summer is.

The walls are 2X6 instead of 2X4. I specified 24in centers, but the dumb
carpenters put them on 16in centers anyway.

I am taking vacation time next week to have a company come in and finish
applying closed cell foam insulation in the new addition and garage.

I ended up with a 90% efficient boiler supplying domestic hot water and
radiant floor heating in the house and attached garage. The radiant
heating allows me to keep the thermostat in the house at 68-69F while
keeping the floor comfortable enough for the dogs. It is actually more
comfortable in the coldest part of the winter when the boiler runs more
than in the spring and fall when it cuts out for long periods.

I am wiring the house lighting for room occupancy sensors because I have
a habit of leaving the lights on.

I have a heat exchange ventilator to install for bathroom exhaust and
replacement air. I understand that those are required in the far white
north.

I guess what PO me most is that I have read that the builders in
Michigan have been stalling implementation of the higher thermal
standards that have been in the International Building Code for years.
The state has a blanket approval of the Electrical, Plumbing, etc codes
from the same organization, but the builders are afraid that they might
lose some business. 

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