Oddly enough, I believe this is why the alternator is ecu controlled on nb > 
cars. The ecu looks at the intake air temp as one of the parameters for 
charging voltage/current.  Wouldn't think there would be a strong correlation 
between air at the MAF and battery temp in the trunk?
 

Bill Cardell 
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www.fmwestfield.com 
Sales 1-800-359-6957 
Tech 970-464-5600 Before you call, check out http://www.flyinmiata.com/FAQ/ 

 

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From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Donni
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 3:23 PM
To: Mark Cookson
Cc: Miata Powerlist
Subject: Re: NPC: Optima battery question


If you lay out the cash for a good battery (AGM) don't ruin it with a cheap 
charger (ask me how I know about this...). Buy a Battery Tender brand or other 
quality temp sensing, regulated charger. More up front but cheaper in the long 
run......as with most things.

For your research and reading pleasure, check out this PDF (page 9 in 
particular) from one of the major battery manufacturers (pretty sure the Westco 
is a rebadged WP/Deka as are many others).

Regarding Absorbed Electrolyte (AGM) type batteries, from the East-Penn PDF 
(page 9) <http://www.eastpenn-deka.com/assets/base/0139.pdf> ;
"Automatic temperature-sensing, voltage-regulated chargers must be used.
Charge voltage must be limited
(14.4 to 14.6 volts maximum at 68°F)"



On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Mark Cookson <[email protected]> wrote:


        Thanks for the tip on the battery charger and cable.  The local 
BatteriesPlus is close to the local Harbor Freight so maybe I can get a new 
battery and a way to keep from killing it in one shot. 

        Sounds like the Optimas are hit or miss.  I'll see what BP tries to 
sell me...

        Thanks everyone!

        
        Mark


        On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Ross Kuhns <[email protected]> 
wrote:
        

                I don't know the ins/outs of Optima's, but really, just put the 
thing on a float charger; it monitors and only turns itself on when the power 
drops. They're "plug and forget about it". 
                I do this with all my motorcycles (expect for the /6 which is 
at Donni's house) and it's so less stressful than trying to remember to put 
them on a bit of a charger each day. 
                 
                I use the Yuasa, 'cause it has the lights that tell you when 
it's good (green) or charging (yellow led comes one)  
http://www.yuasabatteries.com/chargers.php
                Harbor freight has the ones with just one light for like $6 on 
sale quite often.
                 
                I stick the Fused Ring Connector permanently on the battery, 
then it really it just plug and forget. Have it on my miata too. 
                http://www.yuasabatteries.com/accessories.php
                 
                
                
                Ross Kuhns 
                
                 
                
________________________________

                Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 15:31:28 -0600
                Subject: NPC: Optima battery question
                From: [email protected]
                To: [email protected] 


                Hi guys, 

                I'm in need of a new battery.  The last one I got died because 
I basically hardly ever drive my Miata anymore (crying shame, I know).  Do the 
Optima's last longer while not being charged by occasional driving?  Or should 
I just settle for a cheap battery and buy them like they're disposable?

                I know I should put the battery on a trickle charger once a 
month, but somehow I'm too lazy to do even that...

                Thanks,
                Mark

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