That subject should have been "proposal: a.include".

That's what I get for trying to be clever.

-ryan

PS. thanks for pointing it out, robert [http://rbach.priv.at/ Microformats-IRC/2006-07-06#T181100].

On Jul 5, 2006, at 5:50 PM, Ryan King wrote:

As many of us already know, browser support for the object element is somewhat annoying and problematic when using the include pattern [1]. When we[2] first brainstormed this idea, we knew that using the object element could get us in trouble.

As a result of the problems with using the object element, Yahoo local has removed the include pattern from their implementation of hReview and documented their feedback [4].

Now, I'd like to make a proposal- we should relax the include pattern to also be used on anchors, like so (from [1]):

<span class="vcard">
 <span class="fn n" id="j">
<span class="given-name">James</span> <span class="family- name">Levine</span>
 </span>
</span>

<span class="vcard">
 <object data="#j" class="include" type="text/html"></object>

This would become:

<a href="#j" class="include"></a>

(sidenote: I don't think the @type should be required after this change)

 <span class="org">SimplyHired</span>
 <span class="title">Microformat Brainstormer</span>
</span>

I don't think using anchor tags for this is optimal or pretty, but it has the nice advantage of working well in the real world.

As a historical sidenote, I believe I suggested [EMAIL PROTECTED] first, then Tantek countered with [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note that they occur in this order on [3]).

Personally, I think we should prefer the object element, if only for semantic aesthetic reasons (and because browser shortcomings are likely to change and/or go away in the future), but allow for anchor tags to be used in their place.

Is there anything I'm missing here? Are there any objections?

-ryan

1. http://microformats.org/wiki/include-pattern
2. Tantek and I [3].
3. http://flickr.com/photos/tantek/87059138/
4. http://microformats.org/wiki/include-pattern-feedback


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