David Janes said: > I'm very sympathetic to the case Ryan, > et. al. are making. If the Wiki becomes a battleground for edits over > pedantic over-interpretation of the community rules and standards, it > will quickly become useless to anyone and a time drain on everyone.
I read the how-to-play article on Microformats.org[1], and a great deal of the items there are, as Manu pointed out, editorial preferences - which indicate that MediaWiki is very much the wrong choice for Microformats documentation. You don't want people to rename headings? Don't use MediaWiki. You don't want people to use Talk pages to discuss things? Don't use MediaWiki. You don't want people to relegate articles to Categories for organization? Don't use MediaWiki. You don't want people making stylistic or global changes? Don't user MediaWiki. Also, item #24 really irks me - it starts "If you notice that someone is iteratively editing a page (say by watching the IRC channel, or the Special:Recentchanges page) that you'd like to edit, consider waiting at least 10 minutes after the most recent edit before doing so,..." If you want to have protection against "iterative" editing, don't use MediaWiki, use Moinmoin (which will warn users if you're editing an article). To expect people to detect whether you're editing something, and take steps so as not to interrupt you is lunacy. Use the "Preview" button rather than so-called "iterative edits". Finally, under the Wiki Cleaning heading at the bottom, it says: "If you see something which you think needs massive cleanup on the wiki, please point it out to admins on the irc channel or microformats-discuss list rather than doing it yourself." Again, if you don't want people taking the initiative to produce and maintain documentation - don't use MediaWiki! Microformats shouldn't have a wiki, they should have a CMS. Something that the admins can execute explicit control over from their ivory-tower control center. [1] http://microformats.org/wiki/how-to-play -- Jim R. Wilson (jimbojw) On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 5:27 PM, John Allsopp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ben, > > > > Even in the past 10 days, only a small minority of people have shown > > an inclination to engage in this meta-discussion. > > > there might be cultural reasons for that. > > I for myself have bitten my tongue, as I've found these discussions > tend to produce negative outcomes. > > But I'd suggest that lack of piping up on this form is not entirely > evidence that people don't care. > > john > > > John Allsopp > > style master :: css editor :: http://westciv.com/style_master > about me :: http://johnfallsopp.com > Web Directions Conferences :: http://webdirections.org > My Microformats book :: http://microformatique.com/book > > > _______________________________________________ > > > microformats-discuss mailing list > microformats-discuss@microformats.org > http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss > _______________________________________________ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss