Manu Sporny wrote:
I also sent this one too:
Martin McEvoy wrote:
I will be adding Myself as Editor on the Version 1.0 format, because
I don't have some other agenda other than completing haudio.
In fact forget that its not very diplomatic, I will Invite Tantek, or
Brian to edit the 1.0 version of hAudio they are the two admin's that
have had the most input in haudio, haudio may gain a little of its
credibility in this way, and I think that it is the best.
I will be emailing the admin's airing your total disregard of
microformat's principles, and of the damage you are causing the
Microformats Community, in particular hAudio
http://microformats.org/wiki/haudio and currency
http://microformats.org/wiki/currency to which you had no hand in
authoring.
I will CC you the email in the next few days.
Kind Regards
Martin McEvoy
Attached is a personal e-mail that I received today regarding my
intentions towards hAudio and Audio RDF. I will be responding publicly
to what I perceive as an attack on my efforts surrounding hAudio, Audio
RDF, Microformats and RDFa.
I am hesitant to make this a public issue as I don't want to waste
anybody's time, but also do not want any sort of mis-information to be
spread or assumptions made about my intentions with regard to hAudio,
Audio RDF, the Microformats community or RDFa. This is a way of
documenting this issue publicly, so that there is no question with
regard to insinuations of non-transparency. I feel that I must respond
to these allegations, even though I deem them to have no merit, to
prevent people from getting the wrong impression.
This conversation started on the RDFa mailing list:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2008Sep/0037.html
Attached is a private e-mail I received a little over an three hours ago
from Martin McEvoy. I'm surprised as it is out of character for him to
be this aggressive, but I certainly don't want this to get out of hand.
I'll publicly respond to his comments, as he has asked me to do, in case
anybody else has been under the same mistaken set of impressions.
-- manu
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Subject: Re: RDFa and Microformats
From: Martin McEvoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 22:19:47 +0100
To: Manu Sporny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
This is off list Manu
Martin McEvoy wrote:
Manu Sporny wrote:
Martin McEvoy wrote:
Talking of "hacks" why is this NOT a "hack" :
http://wiki.digitalbazaar.com/en/HAudio_RDFa? it looks like a direct rip
from the Microformats wiki,
That's because it started out as a direct rip from the Microformats wiki
it still is
- the fact that it is so close to hAudio was deliberate. The intention
was to create a cross-community vocabulary that would work for people
jumping between RDFa and Microformats.
what people? hAudio is not yet even a draft proposal, and all these
Publisher were Jumping around between vocabularies, that's interesting
show me where?
The outcome of that research was
this:
By the W3C, the Microformats Community...?
http://purl.org/media/audio
The Audio RDF Vocabulary above has a clean/direct mapping to/from
Microformats hAudio.
Yo may be wandering about all the retaliation about "audio rdfa" Manu
when you Microformats New mailing list with hAudio RDFa you received
little support for your endeavour, in fact it was explicitly stated that:
--- this is one of the things that microformats wants to prevent...
http://microformats.org/discuss/mail/microformats-new/2007-July/000716.html
basically because it causes a "drift" in semantics. you received no
feedback from the list because we didn't want you to do it. you read
Brian's email right? it was an incidental concern.
It goes a little further than that, basically Manu You ripped the
hAudio Microformat against the wishes of the Microformats Community and
thus seriously damaged the haudio process in fact you almost killed it
dead. if I could have stopped you I would. lets get hAudio out the door
first eh!
I request that you refrain from Editing the hAudio wiki further until I
can be sure you are not serving your own needs.
I cant believe you became an invited expert over your efforts. how did
you deserve that.
I will be adding Myself as Editor on the Version 1.0 format, because I
don't have some other agenda other than completing haudio.
Manu If you Ignore this email like you seem to conveniently do, I will
post this email to the list because I think you will be ignoring me and
I really would like some answers this time publicly or privately .
Best Wishes
Martin McEvoy
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