Dear Max:

I'm Carlos from MTF LTDA., Concepcion. I was thinking in your trial for pico-hydro set 
for low income peasants in the northern chilean Patagonia since a lot of time, but the 
long distance is a trouble for marketing in site planning. Minimun qty. for low price 
sets is a must looking for good import discounts. I can offer Turgo or Pelton sets 
from APR PowerPal www.powerpal.com as we are their representatives in Chile. I was in 
trouble for answer you because an updating Windows XP had thow away several mail 
adresses from my directory.

I know chinese sets from Maqchin, Santiago, but not in practice. The technical specs. 
and data for those turbine sets are poor an too general for heigth, flow ranges, 
control, etc., for a safe application. Permanent magnet alternators can be used only 
for light en uses as lamps, TV and video sets, radio, and very small domestic 
electical powered devices; I think that refrigerator can't connected because the high 
starting current.

Our experience with PowerPal is good with the low head MHG-LH sets for 200, 500 & 1000 
Watts, permanent magnet alternators running at 1000 RPM. Water flow needed for those 
are 35, 70 and 130 l/s respectively for 1.5 m gross head. We have, installed by us, a 
MHG-1000 in the Quinquen Valley rural school (near Lonquimay) and works well since 
1991.

Perhaps will be good that we can both program a meeting in Puerto Varas for talk, face 
to face, about this interesting and very important and common task.

Best regards,

Carlos Bonifetti
Concepci�n, Chile
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Max Klohn 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 10:37 AM
  Subject: [microhydro] chinese turbine sets



  Dear all,

  For a project oriented at low-income, isolated mountain dwellers in
  northern patagonia,  I have been looking at ready-made, low cost peltric
  sets, or the possibility to import or have built Induction Motor
  Controllers. Typical parameters are 1-5 l/s and 30 to 100 m head. The
  equipment has to be low cost, low maintainance and robust, and involves
  a significant component of technology transfer to the rural dwellers who
  must be able to maintain their equipment. 

  I have recently come upon the following chinese sets, who feature a
  permanent magnet alternator, a controller and a dump load (integrated in
  the base). 
  
http://www.maqchin.com/maqchin/pages/maquinaria_china_ltda_productos_centrales_hidroelectricas.htm
  models of interest are XJL 13-2 x 4.5 (750 W) and XJL 1 x 3.0 (3000 W)

  In the model I could examine, the rotor was a relatively crudely built
  (unpolished) turgo. The nozzle is huge and it is geared towards lower
  heights and bigger flows. I am trying to get the parameters of the
  rotational speed etc.

  * does someone have more data and a practical experience with those
  sets? lessons learned?
  * any experiences into adapting this equipment to higher heads/lower
  flows?

  Thank you, and best regards

  Max Klohn

  Puerto Varas, Chile







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