Willy:

You should not be writing a preliminary report for a hydro-electric 
project.

You should instead be writing a preliminary report for a Power 
System. In it, you can identify that you have industry loads of about 
1000kW and an undetermined amount of rural electric needs. You can 
also say that there is a hydro-electric resource that is 
preliminarily estimated as being in the 1000-1500kW range.

The site survey that has been mentioned several times has nothing to 
do with surveying instruments. It is the overall look at the how much 
load, the nature of that load, and how much of that load can be 
supported by the hydro resource. Where the dam/penstock/powerhouse 
can be sited, etc.  Size and numbers of generators, what type of 
turbines, spares, etc. Future growth/expansion possibilities. 
The end product of this site survey will be a report that will answer 
all of the questions that you are now asking.  It will also answer a 
lot of equally important questions that you have not asked, or even 
thought of. 
It may also include some alternatives, to do a better job, save 
money, etc.

It was already pointed out that you may need 30 percent more power 
due to Power Factor, transmission distances, etc. Another critical 
item is starting surges. Depending on the industry and the size of 
the motors used, you may need some other type of generation 
paralleled to it, to support the starting surges. Otherwise, you risk 
some periods of severe undervoltage. This may damage other sensitive 
equipment. 
The biggest risk (worst case) is that the starting surges could knock 
the hydro plant off-line. (I've done that, it is not fun)

The route that you are taking, where you have 1)mis-identified the 
project 2) are concentrating only on the biggest piece 3) attempting 
to over specify what that biggest piece consists of, generally 
results in total project failure. The best you can hope for is a 
mediocre project. 

Answering your additional questions is not "helping you" with the 
project.  It is helping YOU, set the project up to FAIL.

The Minister of Energy, should either provide you with A) persons 
that are capable of doing the site survey report, or B) provide you 
with the funding to get it done.

Oso

--- In [email protected], Willy Mwamba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> Dear Nando,
> Dear Dimitar Partenov,
> Dear Carlos,
> Dear all,
>  
> Thank you very much for your feedback.  It is clear that the 
project is complex and huge. It requires a complete study by a team 
of specialists. My group is presently in a process of writing a 
preliminary report that the Ministry of Energy of the Democratic 
Replubic of Congo will use to convince some financial donors to 
finance the project. Your contribution is and will be appreciated in 
that it will help us prepare this preliminary report. 
> Bear with me. I still have plenty of questions to ask but let me do 
it by steps.
>  
> Nando suggested a Francis turbine and a penstock of 1 meter 
diameter.
> Dimitar suggested a Kaplan or a propeler turbine with siphon intake 
and a penstock of 1.2 m.
> Carlos suggested instead an axial "S" type turbine.
> I did a bit of search on turbines and indeed all these turbines 
types fall in the category of turbines that can be use for this head 
and flow ( H: 15m, Q: 10m�). I know that through your experience you 
have reasons behind your selection. 
> I want to know the advantages and desadvantages of using the type 
of selected turbines. 
> Since I want to have a spare unit also installed. Will it be 
cheaper to have only one big turbine and a spare turbine or 2 running 
smaller turbines and a spare one?
>  
> To run all the industrial machineries that are planned to be 
installed, almost 1MW of power will be needed. That is the reason why 
the selection of turbines and generators must be so as to give at the 
other end a 1MW power.
>  
> Thank again for your willing to help
>  
> Willy L. Mwamba
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
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