Thanks Charlie, That's the kind of thing I wanted to read.
Just ordered 840' X 4" PVC. Delivered today. Tom --- In [email protected], Charley Custer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > I can put in a warm recommendation for HiPower hydro systems. I put mine > in three years ago and can only complain that I wish I'd known how to > spec my needs--by reading this list--before I got it. I have 900 feet of > 2'' black PVC pipe running along a creek's headwaters for 250 feet of > vertical head. My water supply ranges from 120+ gallons per minute down > to nothing for 3 to 5 months of the year (my apologies for incompetance > with metric equivalencies). My spring and springbox is 1/3 of a mile > from my house, and my system powers three households through the > winter--including one almost a mile away! My poly pipe and current > nozzles don't convey much more than 60 gpm, so I've got resource > awasting until I put in another parallel pipe. But high spikes of flow > don't last more than a week or three, so I'm not desperate to do the > work yet. The 60 gpm yields about 64 14-volt amps--that's 900 watts 24/7 > through the darkest months of winter. The dump load helps heat my barn > office via a 110-volt ceramic heater. > > Derek makes a 3-phase unregulated 110 AC power feed--the 'wild' 110 > alternating current is generated by the magnets' velocity in the > industrial motor that acts as power generator. This means its cycles per > second vary with power production. Which doesn't matter, since the AC is > transformed to Direct Current for battery storage as soon as it arrives > down the power lines, which are just #12 Romex, thin things with little > line loss up to a mile. There are inefficiencies in this double > conversion from AC to DC and back again, but modern inverters and > electronics make it, I don't know, it seems like roughly more than two > thirds efficient power delivery. My system has only had material and > Godly breakdowns in three years--hose clamps worked loose, > uncatastrophic lightning strikes, nothing electronic. I love it! > > I'd note that one of Derek's specialties is delivery to multiple > locations--each of the three phase wires may go to a different > destination--which provides great opportunities. For me, I've got a > great spring but only 30' of head on my property. By borrowing my > neighbor's gravity below me, and delivering painless juice to him in > return for it, while managing the system entirely inside my barn, we all > get a lot more than any of us could individually. > > btw Derek uses Harris Pelton wheels and housings, so I feel like I'm > getting the best of both these enormously talented microhydro pioneers. > Feel free to ask me about any particulars. > > Electrons For all! > > Charley > > > > > > [email protected] wrote: > > > > >There are 3 messages in this issue. > > > >Topics in this digest: > > > > 1. Re: System maker recomendations > > From: "thomas_a_phillips" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > 2. sOLAR Developments > > From: "Mike Barnett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > 3. [Fwd: Technology transfer project 7483RPTT] > > From: Wim Jonker Klunne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > >____________________________________________________________________ ____ > >____________________________________________________________________ ____ > > > >Message: 1 > > Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 22:53:21 -0000 > > From: "thomas_a_phillips" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: System maker recomendations > > > >Thanks Eric, I've talked to Don Haris and Derek at HiPower. Know > >anyone who has one of their rigs? I've also been in touch with Bob-O > >about a system he sells. > > > >I think my flow rates are going to be medium except in rainy weather. > > > >Tom > > > >--- In [email protected], "Eric Youngren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >>Thomas, > >> > >>Check out www.hipowerhydro.com They are building high voltage > >> > >> > >turbines > > > > > >>using Harris runners and housings. Nice products. > >> > >>Also take a look at Energy Systems and Designs at > >> > >> > >www.microhydropower.com > > > > > >>They are Canadian, and also build very nice turbines, with high > >> > >> > >voltage > > > > > >>options. Their turgo runner might be better than the Harris > >> > >> > >pelton if you > > > > > >>have higher flow rates. > >> > >>have fun, > >>Eric > >> > >> > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: "thomas_a_phillips" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>To: <[email protected]> > >>Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 7:56 AM > >>Subject: [microhydro] System maker recomendations > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>>Anyone want to recomend (or caution about) any US hydro system > >>>suppliers for sites with 600+ ft. from turbine to batteries? > >>>Considering electronconnection.com and Harris. Any others I > >>> > >>> > >should look > > > > > >>>at? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>Does your company feature in the microhydro business directory > >>> > >>> > >at > > > > > >>>http://microhydropower.net/directory ? 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As a result, alternative fuel companies' stock has soared this summer alongside oil prices. > > > >ADVERTISEMENT > > > >While equipping your house with solar panels will almost certainly pay off in time, alternative energy stocks are riskier. Many are money-losing companies. All have uncertain futures. > > > >"This is an emerging growth space that's been emerging for a long time," said Jack Robinson, president of Winslow Management Co., a 21- year-old investment firm focused on green investing. "There are companies that are much riskier than others." > > > >Most alternative energy stocks are thinly traded. Several of the companies don't have a lot of cash. > > > >"They are still consuming a lot of cash; there's a risk of them not being able to consume their way to success," said Timothy Woodward, managing director at Nth Power, a venture capital firm specializing in energy technologies. > > > >"Many of these companies have to go back to the public markets on a fairly regular basis to support their operations," he said. "If they can't do a financing, they run the risk of having to shut the doors." > > > >Recently, the financing hasn't been a problem. > > > >Hurricane Katrina has shut an estimated 5 percent of the nation's oil refining capacity, which will send gasoline prices even higher. > > > >For 2005, energy expenditures in the United States are expected to be $1.08 trillion, approximately 24 percent above the 2004 level, the Energy Information Administration, a division of the U.S. Energy Department, reported Friday. It said energy costs will represent 8.7 of the nation's annual gross domestic product this year, the highest percentage since 1985. > > > >That's good news for Spire Corp., which makes solar cell manufacturing equipment. The company makes a profit and has solid sales, but it still received a letter from the Nasdaq Listing Qualifications Panel in April saying that Spire was no longer in compliance with the exchange's $10 million stockholders' equity requirement. That put it in danger of delisting from the exchange, which would make it harder for the company to raise cash. > > > >Since June, however, Spire's stock has doubled. It's now in compliance with listings requirements, said Roger Little, Spire's CEO. "The issue's gone away," he said. A Nasdaq spokeswoman did not return calls for this report. > > > >Why did the stock double? > > > >"Because energy is so hot and there aren't that many players you can invest in," Little said. "There aren't many places to invest in solar energy, and we've done pretty well." > > > >Another solar winner is Evergreen Solar Inc. which has attracted big-name attention. Dr. Gerald L. Wilson, the dean of the school of engineering at Massachusetts Institute of Technology, is on the board. Fidelity Investments owns almost 12 percent of the company, according to Evergreen's most recent SEC filing. > > > >Still, Evergreen is not yet profitable and its stock has had a rocky ride. A chart in its proxy lays it out: $100 invested in Evergreen when it went public in 2000 would have sunk to $23 by December 2004, far below $100 invested in the overall Nasdaq, which would have dipped to $66.47. > > > >Woodward, who is chairman of Evergreen's board, says profitability for solar energy companies "is right around the corner. Or, it's in a timeframe individual investors can live with." > > > >But the financials are more worrisome at some of the more advanced wind energy and fuel cell companies, he said. > > > >"The potential is there, but the demand is not as big" as it is for solar energy, he said. The cost to make the products often exceeds the price customers are willing to pay for them. > > > >"Those companies, you're making an investment in the future, so the volume is there when there will be enough demand to help them come down the cost curve," he said. > > > >Winslow's Robinson suggests that investors who are interested in clean energy for environmental reasons may want to consider buying an exchange traded fund called PowerShares WilderHill Clean Energy, which trades under ticker symbol PBW. The fund invests at least 80 percent of its total assets in common stocks of clean energy and conservation companies. > > > >The fund is an alternative to trying to pick clean energy's winners, he said, "which is tough to do, even for professionals." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >____________________________________________________________________ ____ > >____________________________________________________________________ ____ > > > >Message: 3 > > Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 10:47:38 +0200 > > From: Wim Jonker Klunne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: [Fwd: Technology transfer project 7483RPTT] > > > >Dear group, > > > >Please see the message by Foà Paolo below. > >The attachment mentioned in the message can not be distributed through > >the group, so if you have an interest, please contact Foà Paolo directly > >at [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Kind regards, > > > > > > > >Wim Jonker Klunne > >group moderator > > > > > >-------- Original Message -------- > >Subject: Technology transfer project 7483RPTT > >Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 17:38:47 +0200 > >From: Foà Paolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > >Dear Sirs > > > >N&G Consulting (www.ngpatent.com) is the technology transfer and > >licensing consulting company of Notarbartolo & Gervasi Group, patent > >Attorneys operating worldwide since 1963. > > > >We refer to you to verify your possible interest in the exploitation of > >a newly patented (Italian application filed) technology. > > > >The technology has been developed by a Professor of Mechanic Engineering > >in Naples University. > > > >The proposed technology refers to a new pressure regulation valve for > >water network with transformation of the hydraulic energy to be > >dissipated in mechanic or electric energy. > > > >We attach a summary profile of the technology. > > > ><<summary profile Carravettagas 3 5 05 definitivo.doc>> > > > >Our clients are looking for licensees or assignees for their patent > >application. > > > >In case of interest, under confidentiality agreement we will be very > >pleased to send you further information. > > > >Sincerely > > > > > >Dr Paolo Foà > >N & G Consulting > >Corso di Porta Vittoria, 9 > >20122 Milan (Italy) > > > >tel.: +39 025417991 > >fax: +39 0254179920 > >e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >____________________________________________________________________ ____ > >____________________________________________________________________ ____ > > > > > >Does your company feature in the microhydro business directory at http://microhydropower.net/directory ? 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