Hello

The MIF charter says like:
" The purpose of the MIF working group is to describe the architecture 
detailing how devices attach to and operate in multiple networks."
I think my presentation cleanly fits this statement...

Best Regards
XUELI


发件人: mif [mailto:mif-boun...@ietf.org] 代表 Alper Yegin
发送时间: 2014年11月11日 10:45
收件人: Sri Gundavelli
抄送: Brian Haberman; mif@ietf.org
主题: Re: [mif] Follow up with BBF proposal

MIF focuses on the following issues, and the issue BBF is bringing up is a 
totally  separate issue.
It's about how two links can be aggregated for capacity and reliability boost.

So, I agree with Sri that this is not a MIF WG issue.

The MIF problem statement document 
[RFC6418<https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6418>] enumerates the problems into 3 
categories:
  1. Lack of consistent and distinctive management of configuration elements, 
associated with different networks.
  2. Inappropriate mixed use of configuration elements, associated with 
different networks, in the course of a particular network activity / connection.
  3. Use of a particular network, not consistent with the intent of the 
scenario / involved parties, leading to connectivity failure and / or other 
undesired consequences.

Alper




On Nov 11, 2014, at 3:08 AM, Sri Gundavelli (sgundave) wrote:


Hi Hui,

The BBF requirement as presented in the BBF documents and as interpreted in 
draft-seite and draft-lhwxz is about enabling a CPE device to attach to 
multiple access network and perform flow management. However, I look at it, I 
see this this is a mobility requirement and is really not in the scope of MIF 
WG. The BBF requirement in question is all about flow switching or flow 
splitting across access systems. I'm not sure why this work belongs MIF and not 
DMM which is chartered to handle all mobility use-cases. We have discussed this 
specific use-case of flow splitting during MIF formation and explicitly 
disallowed MIF WG from taking up such work. The following is the quote from the 
MIF chartered text. Also, the MIF WG was primarily looking at issues for a host 
attached to multiple access networks, but the hybrid access is about a CPE 
attached to multiple networks. I really think this work should be done in DMM 
and we did present the requirements in the last IETF meeting.


http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/mif/charter/

No work will be done to enable traffic flows to move from one interface to 
another. The group recognizes existing work on mechanisms that require peer or 
network support for moving traffic flows such as RFC 5206, RFC 4980 and the use 
of multiple care-of addresses in Mobile IPv6. This group does not work on or 
impact such mechanisms. Future work in this area requires rechartering the 
working group or asking other, specialized working groups (such as DHC or 6MAN) 
to deal with specific issues.




Regards
Sri

From: Hui Deng <deng...@chinamobile.com<mailto:deng...@chinamobile.com>>
Date: Friday, October 31, 2014 4:50 AM
To: Sri Gundavelli <sgund...@cisco.com<mailto:sgund...@cisco.com>>, 'Xueli' 
<xu...@huawei.com<mailto:xu...@huawei.com>>, 
"pierrick.se...@orange.com<mailto:pierrick.se...@orange.com>" 
<pierrick.se...@orange.com<mailto:pierrick.se...@orange.com>>, 'Ted Lemon' 
<ted.le...@nominum.com<mailto:ted.le...@nominum.com>>, "'STARK, BARBARA H'" 
<bs7...@att.com<mailto:bs7...@att.com>>, 'Alexandru Petrescu' 
<alexandru.petre...@gmail.com<mailto:alexandru.petre...@gmail.com>>
Cc: "mif@ietf.org<mailto:mif@ietf.org>" <mif@ietf.org<mailto:mif@ietf.org>>
Subject: Follow up with BBF proposal

Hi everybody

I am recommending that Xue Li could help to put down the slide for the problem 
statement from BBF.

And MIP/NEMO proponents (Pierrick, Alex, Sri) and Xue Li could kindly to meet 
together during IETF meeting
to discuss by adding s thelide about how today solutions meet the requirement 
or there are some gap still, and whether that problem should be solvable in 
IETF.

Chairs will talk with AD whether MIF or somewhere else will consider to discuss 
those issues during the f2f session.

Best regards,

-Hui
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