"The two-persons in the cockpit rule should have been ironclad from the outset."
Especially by those who brought us Germanwings, now rebranded Eurowings, as a result. Recently one of their CRJs left Katowice with no fuel and had to turn back - not even enough on board to get the 450 nm to Frankfurt. And then he asked to return to the wrong airport - Krakow instead of Katowice, which required an ATCO intervention to correct. Something not quite right with vaunted LH Ops these days? ---------------------------------------- *From: *Dan Solon via Mifnet <[email protected]> *To: *[email protected] *CC: *Dan Solon <[email protected]> *Date: *May 20, 2025 17:28:34 *Subject: *[Mifnet 🚀 72460] Re: Anybody Hear About This? > The two-persons in the cockpit rule should have been ironclad from the outset. > Another nail in the coffin of "single pilot" fantasizing. > > Daniel Solon > > On Tue, May 20, 2025 at 2:13 PM Tom Ronell via Mifnet > <[email protected]> wrote: >>  >> >> LUFTHANSA: 10 MINUTES WITHOUT A PILOT – INCIDENT KEPT SECRET FOR A YEAR >> >> On February 17, 2024, a Lufthansa flight from Frankfurt to Seville flew for >> nearly 10 minutes with no pilot at the controls. >> >> >> The co-pilot, alone in the cockpit while the captain was in the lavatory, >> suffered a sudden and severe medical episode. The >> Airbus[https://www.linkedin.com/company/airbusgroup/] A321, carrying 199 >> passengers and six crew, stayed in stable autopilot—but there was no >> response to repeated calls from air traffic control. >> >> >> The captain, locked out, tried five times to re-enter using the standard >> code before triggering emergency override access. By the time the door >> opened, the co-pilot was regaining consciousness. A doctor on board >> assisted, and the flight was diverted to Madrid. >> >> >> And yet, the public heard nothing until now. >> Lufthansa[https://www.linkedin.com/company/lufthansa/] and Spanish >> authorities kept the incident under wraps for over a year, until the release >> of the >> hashtag#CIAIAC[https://www.linkedin.com/search/results/all/?keywords=%23ciaiac&origin=HASH_TAG_FROM_FEED]’s >> official investigation report in May 2025. >> >> >> The cause? An undiagnosed neurological condition. The co-pilot’s pilot >> license has since been suspended. >> >> >> This rare but serious event has reignited debate around aviation safety. >> Should airlines reinstate the two-person cockpit rule during flight? >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Revised: 20250507 >> >> You are receiving The Mifnet because you requested to join this list. >> >> The Mifnet is largely a labor of love, however the infrastructure isn't >> exactly cost-free. If you'd care to make a small contribution to the effort, >> please know that it would be greatly appreciated: >> https://wardell.us/url/mifbit >> >> All posts sent to the list should abide by these policies: >> >> 1) List members acknowledge that participation in Mifnet is a privilege--not >> a right. >> 2) Posts are always off the record, absent specific permission from the >> author. >> 3) The tone of discussions is collegial. >> 4) Posts are expected to be in reasonably good taste. >> 5) We discuss ideas and not personalities, and we don't speak ill of other >> Mifnet members. >> >> * The Mifnet WEB SITE is: >>  https://www.mifnet.com/ >> >> * To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list at any time please visit: >>  https://lists.mifnet.com/ >>  OR: SEND THIS MESSAGE via email: >> [email protected]?subject=leave[http://[email protected]?subject=leave] >> >> * Send Mifnet mailing list POSTS/SUBMISSIONS to: >>  [email protected] >> >> * You may reach the person managing The Mifnet at: >>  [email protected] >> >> * Please consider the DIGEST version of The Mifnet, which consolidates all >> list traffic into 1-3 >>  messages daily. See instructions at: >>  https://lists.mifnet.com/ >> >> * Manage your personal Mifnet SUBSCRIPTION at: >>  https://lists.mifnet.com/ >> >> * For a list of all available Mifnet commands, SEND THIS MESSAGE via email: >>  >> [email protected]?subject=help[http://[email protected]?subject=help] >> >> * View The Mifnet LIST POLICIES and PRIVACY POLICY at: >>  https://mifnet.com/index.php/policies >> >> * View instructions for Mifnet DELIVERY PROBLEMS at: >>  https://mifnet.com/index.php/delivery-problems >> >> * View The Mifnet LIST ARCHIVE at: >>  https://lists.mifnet.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/
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