Here’s just a bot more about the RAT.

 

My expectation is that there is an electrical sensor attached to an electrical 
bus that is deemed to be an “essential” bus.  This might be termed the battery 
bus.  If that sensor determines that the voltage falls below a certain level, 
this triggers the deployment of the RAT.  It would release an electro- 
mechanical device/solenoid.

 

Am I correct?  If so and if the sensor looks at the battery voltage, and if the 
battery voltage is OK, then the RAT does not deploy.  Is that correct?  But 
that gets to the question of the hydraulic pump’s power and the flight control 
actuators.

 

Bob Ditchey

 

From: Robert Ditchey via Mifnet <[email protected]> 
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2025 12:27 PM
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: [Mifnet đź›° 72762] RAT, Flight Control, and Hydraulics
Importance: High

 

This question is directed to Mike Borfitz and the Mifnet pilots for possible 
response, which I seek.

 

There have been a few discussions about the RAT and the Air India crash.  But 
this e-mail pertains also to the Muan/Jegu Air crash in Korea and to the 
“Miracle on the Hudson” crash of “Capt. Sullie.”

 

It is my understanding that all of the aircraft involved in these accidents 
have flight controls (ailerons, etc.) that rely upon hydraulic actuators to 
move and position the flight controls, whether or not they are “fly by wire.”  
In turn, the actuators depend upon electricity to function, and the hydraulic 
system is powered (I think) by electric hydraulic pumps, not engine driven 
pumps.  That is also important when we consider that in the Sullie case and in 
the Jeju case, bird ingestion caused the engines to fail (both.)

 

So, in these cases, I am of the belief that the RAT deployed immediately when 
the engines failed.  And I also believe that the RAT permitted the electric and 
hydraulic systems to continue to function, allowing the flight controls to 
continue to function. (Obviously, with Sullie and Jeju, the flight controls 
functioned up until impact, with both engines out.)

 

But with the Jeju case, both the CVR and FDR failed before the crash.  I would 
guess that both the CVR and FDR are connected to the battery bus.  Or else the 
RAT could have or should have powered the recorders. Why did the flight 
controls continue to function but not the recorders?

 

I ask for some explanations from our esteemed group.  If not, please send me a 
good link.

 

Bob Ditchey

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