A few personal comments from that report."The likelihood of a pilot error is
considered minimal as is the simultaneous failure of both engines."How can they
say that? A dual engine failure has to be a possibility, especially with the
RAT deployed. Also they have no clear idea what the crew were up to until a
full analysis of the FDM data is completed. (Not the black box data but the
full monty from the FDM kit, if it was functioning, ie still powered).Unlike
some, Im not implying the crew did make errors, nor that both engines failed.
I'm just wondering what powers of reasoning or critical thinking the Indian
authorities are using to make these confident assertions so soon.The AvHerald
commentary also states the Captain had 8,200 hours and was "about to retire" at
age 60. That's not a lot for a 60 year old. Again, I'm not saying it's
significant - 8,000 hours is plenty - but I'm genuinely curious because it
either tells an interesting career tale or perhaps might also be proven
incorrect later on. We'll see.As a yardstick, even I notched up 13,500 hours
after joining the industry relatively late, then doing 12 years of military
flying (fewer hours) and later seven years as a management pilot (also fewer
hours), retiring at 65. Michael Baiada has about 20-30,000 at least and I'm
pretty sure Eric will have notched up more than me, even after his own military
time and apparently spending half of every subsequent working year faffing
around on a jet boat in NZ. (#niceworkifyoucanfindit).Postscript: I threatened
Mike Borfitz with more questions in an earlier post of mine. Disregard. It
refers to that hoax report mentioned in the AvHerald piece. I saw that "report"
a few days ago and, whilst it looked convincing, I dug into it and found enough
discrepancies and flaws to disregard it. It was creative though, which is sad.
Why can't people who compile this rubbish put their creativity to something
useful like motor neuron disease research or developing small modular reactors,
rather than making bereaved relatives even more miserable and keyboard
theorists and TikTok bullshi...I mean bloggers, even more priapic when these
sad events occur?Simon
-------- Original message --------From: "Karl L. Swartz via Mifnet"
<[email protected]> Date: 18/06/2025 02:37 (GMT+02:00) To:
[email protected] Cc: "Karl L. Swartz" <[email protected]> Subject: [Mifnet 🛰
72781] Re: AI engine out theory “They” is India’s DGCA via AvHerald,
admittedly hearsay but via a usually reliable
intermediary:https://avherald.com/h?article=528f27ecI’m traveling until
tomorrow so haven’t dug as thoroughly as I’d like.With regard to fan-blade
failure, if there were signs of that I’d think it would have been reported and
not just lack of bird carcasses though perhaps I’m reading too much into it.
Hopefully we’ll know more from the DFDR soon. -- KarlOn Jun 17, 2025, at 3:06
PM, Robert Ditchey via Mifnet <[email protected]> wrote:Is this reliable,
and who is “they?” If birds only got as far as the fan blades, might the
engines have failed, at least partially? Might bird remains not have been
gotten past the fans yet still caused loss of power? Possibly with fan blade
failure? I acknowledge that all of this about AI is far too early. As for
Sullie and Jeju, there is no question about bird ingestion. In both of those
accidents, the engines failed due to bird ingestion. Bob Ditchey From: Karl L.
Swartz via Mifnet <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2025 1:57
PMTo: Mifnet <[email protected]>Cc: Karl L. Swartz
<[email protected]>Subject: [Mifnet 🛰 72768] Re: AI engine out theory They’ve
already reported that there were no bird remains in the engines, which implies
the engines were (relatively) intact. -- KarlOn Jun 17, 2025, at 12:34 PM,
Robert Ditchey via Mifnet <[email protected]> wrote: I imagine that the
engines were completely burned/melted in the resulting fire. So it may be
impossible to determine (except for the FDR). Bob Ditchey From: Jack Keady via
Mifnet <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2025 12:01 PMTo: David
Wardell via Mifnet <[email protected]>Cc: Jack Keady
<[email protected]>Subject: [Mifnet 🛰 72759] AI engine out theory keady - haven't
heard anything about whether the engine blades were turning or not?
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