If there are no tariffs on aircraft, then why is Delta taking Airbus deliveries to Tokyo and putting them into service from there, in order to avoid tariffs by having the aircraft enter USA as used aircraft, and Bloomberg's reporting "...as it seeks to overcome a shortage and avoid aircraft import tariffs."? Seems like a lot to do for no reason.
TR ---------------------------------------- *From: *Bob Robeson via Mifnet <[email protected]> *To: *Mike Borfitz via Mifnet <[email protected]> *CC: *Bob Robeson <[email protected]> *Date: *Jul 15, 2025 02:13:34 *Subject: *[Mifnet 🛰 73084] Re: Delta's canny move > Mike & Jack, > > Don't worry about tariffs. The Agreement on Trade in Civil Aircraft > eliminated customs duties (i.e., tariffs) on trade in civil aircraft and > parts among the signatories to the agreement. See Article 2 and the tariff > schedules at the end of the agreement. Now, I confess that I'm way out of > date as to the effect on this of Mr. Trump's unhinged dabbling in the world > of tariffs, but it looks like the Aerospace Industries Association is worried > about it. Finally, the item from the US Trade Representative contains a list > of signatories to the agreement (apparently USTR hasn't noticed that the UK > is no longer part of the EU, but since the EU members all signed in their own > right that isn't relevant for this discussion, but I just couldn't resist a > little snark). > > Cheers, Gents > Bob Robeson > > gatt-disputes.wto.org/sites/default/files/documents/6%20Full%20TR%20Codes/Instrument155-TCA.pdf[https://gatt-disputes.wto.org/sites/default/files/documents/6%20Full%20TR%20Codes/Instrument155-TCA.pdf] > > www.aia-aerospace.org/wp-content/uploads/AIA-Agreement-on-Trade-in-Civil-Aircraft.pdf[https://www.aia-aerospace.org/wp-content/uploads/AIA-Agreement-on-Trade-in-Civil-Aircraft.pdf] > > ustr.gov/issue-areas/industry-manufacturing/industry-initiatives/aircraft[https://ustr.gov/issue-areas/industry-manufacturing/industry-initiatives/aircraft] > > On Monday, July 14, 2025 at 03:37:49 PM EDT, Mike Borfitz via Mifnet > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Even better: They're Pratt engines, so we're talking Connecticut to Europe > then back to Atlanta or wherever, and there are duties?  Now THAT is odd. I > wonder if Pratt has final assembly in Europe? > > On Mon, Jul 14, 2025 at 1:15 PM Jack Keady via Mifnet > <[email protected]> wrote: >> keady - doesn't Airbus alreadyhave a factory in the US? I'm thinking they >> could expand this to making it a final assembly or whatevr, couldn't they? >> >> >> *Delta strips engines off new Airbus jets to overcome US shortage* >> >> >> Delta Air Lines Inc. has been cannibalizing new Airbus SE jets in Europe by >> stripping off their engines and using them to get grounded planes in the US >> back into service, as it seeks to overcome a shortage and avoid aircraft >> import tariffs. The airline has been taking US-made Pratt & Whitney engines >> off new European-built A321neos and shipping them back to the States without >> any duties, according to people familiar with the matter. 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