Ah, now the real truth comes out. Anything from the *New York Post* must be ignored not because it's factually incorrect (for which there was no showing) but simply because it supposedly reflects the wrong *political * views*.* Who needs facts or even the First Amendment? We can just rely on Democrat Doug to specify what sources are acceptable for the Mifnet to use!
Bob K <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> Virus-free.www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Wed, Jul 23, 2025 at 7:37 PM Doug Church via Mifnet < [email protected]> wrote: > I won’t withdraw this comment: the NY Post story is indeed HOGWASH. This > is not a legitimate news source. It’s a right wing political propaganda > entertainment source that loves to beat up on Democrats and is trying to > get noticed and get clicks to survive, like everyone in that crowded space. > This is not new. This is not controversial. > > Once you get past the ridiculous headline and lead paragraphs, there is > some semblance of balance and fairness to the piece, complete with comment > from former Secretary Buttigieg’s spokesperson. So at least there’s that. > > -Doug Church > > > On Wed, Jul 23, 2025 at 5:03 PM F. Scott Wilson via Mifnet < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Bob K, >> >> I withdraw my comment with apologies. I don’t want to invest the time, >> and lack the patience, to try to rebut the claims. Others have commented >> on the veracity (or not) of the claims, and the source. Notwithstanding >> its aviation connection (I guess), I do wonder why Dr Wardell chose to >> start a political string on the Mifnet, and with an article from the New >> York Post to boot (a newspaper I used to read on trips home on Metro North >> for the amusement and the puzzles). Now he’s trying to use an AI search >> function as an arbiter, which I don’t think I am prepared to accept - like >> Wikipedia, it may be "directionally correct” as a colleague used to say, >> but who knows? >> >> I’ll try hard to keep my knee-jerk reactions to myself in future. >> >> >> Scott >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Jul 23, 2025, at 9:52 AM, Bob Kneisley via Mifnet < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> I'm curious Scott, how do you know "This is hogwash"? Do you have a >> counter-source to the New York Post article? Personally I don't know for >> sure if Buttigieg "shelled out tens of billions on a DEI agenda", tho it >> sounds at least plausible given his well-known political leanings. In any >> case, some evidence supporting your "hogwash" claim would be a lot more >> informative to the readers than a drive-by smear. >> >> Bob K >> >> >> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> >> Virus-free.www.avast.com >> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> >> >> On Tue, Jul 22, 2025 at 3:52 PM F. 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