I remember that test. So, any bets on T weighing in to help out his pals at Fox. Probably will after the pay his usual extortion. Kathryn
On Wed, Aug 13, 2025 at 4:12 PM RWM via Mifnet <[email protected]> wrote: > Well, in 1984, FAA and NASA did test-crash ('Controlled Impact > Demonstration') a remotely-controlled Boeing 720 at NASA Dryden / Edwards > AFB to evaluate the post-crash fire suppression benefits of what was deemed > a promising concept -- an Anti-Misting Kerosene ('AMK') additive termed > FM-9. > > It didn't go particularly well, but probably would have made Fox-worthy > video. > > The first link describes the test, the second the outcome. > > > https://www.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/315492main_fs-2009-02-003-cid.pdf > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVyZeSgxmsw > > Aviation Week had a great write-up at the time, but I can't locate it. > > - Bob Mann > > > On 8/13/2025 2:19 PM, Mike Borfitz via Mifnet wrote: > > Hey Mifnetters, > > This isn't quite NNN material because it's about aviation & safety. It's a > Washington Post article from 1999. I'm refreshing an old piece I wrote back > then & it struck me as funny now as it did then. That piece was "Public > Perceptions of Safety", I used it to show the fascination folks have for > aviation disasters. The BOLD part is pretty entertaining. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > *Fox Wants to Crash a 747 on Purpose? No Way, Says the FAA**[1]* > <#m_8254507559566845491__ftn1> > > August 30, 1999, By Lisa de Moraes > > Can't wait for Fox News Channel to bring you wall-to-wall coverage of the > next national calamity? Not to worry. Fox's sister entertainment network, > the Fox Broadcasting Co., is working right now on re-creating one for you. > > The News Corp.-owned broadcast network is developing a special in which it > would crash a real 747 jumbo jet--live--somewhere in the California or > Arizona desert. Of course the program would be gussied up like a > news-you-can-use public service broadcast about airline safety, and called > "Jumbo Jet Crash Live: The Ultimate Safety Test." But Fox's specials > specialist, Mike Darnell, knows a bang-up ratings-getter when he sees one. > "I mean, are you going to watch 'Friends' or a jumbo jet crash?" he is > quoted as saying in this week's issue of TV Guide. > > Yes, the folks at Fox are so excited about this idea that news of it > somehow got to the News Corp.-owned TV Guide, and an advance of that TV > Guide column somehow got to the News Corp.-owned New York Post newspaper, > which ran a big story on it Friday. > > Network suits insist there was no synergy here. In fact, they don't seem > happy that this news got out at all. Why? Because the Federal Aviation > Administration has gone into a tailspin over the report. > > *The FAA is particularly heated over Darnell telling TV Guide--which told > the New York Post--that a deal is in the works to get the FAA's approval on > the crash, which he says "is the kind of test the FAA does periodically" in > which three trained pilots get a plane up into the air and then "bail out > before the crash." And the broadcast won't literally be live, Darnell > assures TV Guide, but will be delayed by a couple of seconds so that the > network itself can bail out "in case anybody dies." (Emphasis Added)* > > *"They have never come to us for this, and we would not work with Fox or > anyone else on something like this," an FAA spokeswoman said > Friday--emphatically. (My BOLD)* > > "Absolutely not," she responded when asked if the FAA periodically tests > planes by having pilots go airborne, then parachute to safety before the > crash. When the FAA tests planes, she explained, it hauls a fuselage into > the air and drops it. Years ago, tests were conducted in which aircraft > were actually crashed, but they were remote-controlled, she added. The FAA > would never put pilots in a plane in order to crash it and "we certainly > wouldn't give anybody approval to do it," she said with gusto. > > The Fox network, meanwhile, issued a statement Friday saying that the > project was "in the early stages of discussion" and that "formal sanction > by either the network or the FAA has yet to be pursued." > > "A venture of this nature would not move forward without such approval," > Fox spokesman Tom Tyrer added. > > And Darnell? 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