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DB holds an annual aviation conference with c-suite speakers. Not my employer; 
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The View (from 35,000 feet)
Key takeaways from 15th Annual Aviation Forum 

  

  

  

 



  



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Key takeaways from 15th Annual Aviation Forum

On Thursday, September 4th, we hosted 18 US, Latin American, and European 
airlines at Deutsche Bank’s 15th Annual Aviation Forum at our New York 
headquarters. If we could summarize the day in a single sentence, it would be 
"Increased competition overshadows improving demand backdrop." The key 
takeaways are as follows:

JetBlue started the day with a markedly improved Sep Q outlook …

JetBlue was the only airline to update September quarter as it noted that 
“demand for air travel remained strong throughout the summer peak.” The company 
also called out close-in strength (i.e., within 14 days of travel) and provided 
an early read on the December quarter: “while it is early in the booking curve, 
JetBlue remains encouraged that current trends may carry-forward through year 
end.” The company guided to better-than-expected range midpoints for RASM 
(-2.75% vs. -4.0%), CASM-ex (+4.5% vs. +5.0%), and lower fuel prices ($2.50/gal 
vs. $2.575/gal). As such, we see upside earnings risk to both our September 
quarter loss per share estimate of $0.60 and the consensus loss per share of 
$0.50.

… while Frontier and United announced a bevy of new routes … some, of which, 
backfilled Spirit’s contracting network

While investors were encouraged by JetBlue’s commentary, this was offset by 
headlines announcing new routes by Frontier and United that unnerved investors, 
who where concerned that their actions would adversely impact margins. Frontier 
announced 22 new routes (many are 1x and 2x weekly and start in November and 
December) and United added two new routes as well as additional service between 
its hubs and key leisure destinations such as Fort Lauderdale, Orlando, and Las 
Vegas (on sale as of September 4, 2025 with service set to begin January 6, 
2026). However, unlike a week ago when Frontier announced new service targeting 
18 Spirit city-pairs, its most recent route additions only targeted three 
Spirit markets, i.e., Orlando – Guatemala City, Orlando – San Jose, Costa Rica, 
and Orlando – San Pedro Sula. Furthermore, United’s new services from Newark to 
Columbia, SC and Newark to Chattanooga, TN will backfill two markets that 
Spirit plans to terminate later this year. On a separate note, United is 
resuming service from Chicago and Washington-Dulles to Tel Aviv, Israel in 
November, two markets that we expect to be material contributors to United’s 
bottom-line (the company’s recently resumed double daily Newark – Tel Aviv 
service is off to a strong start).

Fears of increased near-term competition weighed on airline share prices

After starting the day in the “green”, airline share prices sold off as 
investors became concerned that the sector was heading into a period of intense 
competition spurred on by Spirit’s bankruptcy. The only US airline stock that 
appreciated for the day was Alaska Air Group (up 50 bps), which provided a very 
constructive update on their business and continues to successfully execute on 
its merger with Hawaiian.

Not surprisingly, the Spirit bankruptcy was top of mind for investors

The recent Spirit bankruptcy is already having an impact on the industry as 
airlines look to backfill the company’s cutbacks in service, which includes the 
termination of flights to 12 cities including Albuquerque, Birmingham, Boise, 
Oakland, Salt Lake City, San Diego, San Jose, and Sacramento, among others. We 
believe the company would be targeting aircraft and aircraft-related 
liabilities for reduction and are estimating that the low fare carrier could 
scale back its current operating fleet of 157 aircraft by at least one-third in 
the near-term. Given current Spirit’s cash burn (per its recently filed 
bankruptcy documents) and the fact that we are heading into a seasonal 
shoulder/off-peak period, we think we will have a better sense of the direction 
of the company’s restructuring by the end of the month.

Domestic supply-demand backdrop improving; international long-haul remains 
strong

Notwithstanding the aforementioned concerns around increased competition, it is 
important to note that domestic demand overall is improving as capacity growth 
moderates: +1.7% year-over-year in July, -0.1% in August, and -0.7% in 
September. December quarter domestic capacity is expected to be up 2.5% - 3.0% 
year-over-year, but we expect that to be further revised lower as airlines 
finalize their year end schedules. The majority of carriers we met with noted 
that domestic RASM was expected to show the most improvement among all regions 
with several carriers anticipating the return of domestic RASM growth as we 
head into year end. Regarding international, American and United noted strength 
in key long-haul transatlantic and transpacific markets. Conversely, American 
called-out short-haul Caribbean/Central American markets as being more 
challenging, although still producing healthy profits.

Corporate travel is trending in the right direction; anticipating a solid 
December quarter

Alaska, American, and United all noted varying degrees of improved corporate 
travel during the late summer with the expectation that would continue into the 
December quarter. Our call is that we think the improvement in corporate travel 
would outpace the improvement in discretionary travel in the December quarter 
in both domestic and international markets.

Product enhancement a key focus; a driver of increased premium share

Investing in the customer with new products and amenities was a topic of 
discussion in several of our meetings. More specifically, Southwest announced 
plans to offer free Wi-Fi and JetBlue highlighted its recent partnership with 
Amazon’s Partner Kuiper. The Southwest initiative to offer free unlimited Wi-Fi 
is built around a new partnership with T-Mobile and available to its frequent 
flyer members effective October 24, 2025. JetBlue, which has been the industry 
leader when it comes to free Wi-Fi, is looking to augment its current offering 
with the Amazon service starting in 2027 on a portion of its fleet. On a 
separate note, Alaska’s new and innovative credit card/loyalty program is 
expected to help the company “capture” a greater share of the premium travel 
market as the carrier prepares to expand into Europe next year.

        

 

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