Thanks Michael.  I'm not a strong Ops guy, most of my experience relates to
nuts & bolts, airworthiness, etc.

But I think I get your point. It's a pretty big number. So just from what
you shared, now I'm wondering about systems integration. What would a Venn
diagram look like?

Related: the general FAA mission segments are compliance, surveillance,
enforcement & air traffic. Three are inherently governmental,  the 4th is a
public service, meaning it could be split out & managed separately. I guess
some air traffic is contracted out and the topic of privatizing air traffic
has been beat to death. AND it's probably 1/2 to 2/3 of the FAA budget, so
privatization would be a threat to some FAA empires.

Intuitively, however, doesn't it make sense that a private enterprise would
be more inclined to build an efficient & effective integrated system? With
the proper incentives & tight oversight, maybe it would work.

And I close by saying I am fully aware I haven't said anything that hasn't
been said a thousand times. I'm also aware that I'm WAY out of my lane,
but it's so much fun to watch all you MifNetters go at it. And I'm done.

Mike Borfitz
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Kilroy Aviation LLC
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Kilroy is available for aviation regulatory and safety issues
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On Sat, Dec 27, 2025, 11:07 PM [email protected] <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Mike,
>
>
>
> MLS, AAS, ISSS, Fans, GPS, FreeFlight, RNP, ADS-B/C, CPDLC, ERAM, STARS,
> TBFM, Trajectory Based Ops, CDM, etc.
>
>
>
> And a few I am sure I missed.
>
>
>
> Michael
>
> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> R. Michael Baiada
>
> cell - (303) 521-6047
>
> [email protected]
>
>
>
> *From:* Mike Borfitz <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Saturday, December 27, 2025 14:25
> *To:* Mike Borfitz via Mifnet <[email protected]>
> *Cc:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [Mifnet šŸ›° 74990] What Should Airlines Want?
>
>
>
> Michael,
>
>
>
> This is really a rhetorical question but I gotta ask:
>
>
>
> *How many times in the last 50 years has the FAA promised to fix the air
> traffic system?*
>
>
>
> Borfitz
>
>
>
>
>
> Mike Borfitz
>
> Cell         206-714-8797
>
> Kilroy Aviation LLC
>
> WWW.FAAODA.COM <http://www.faaoda.com/>
>
>
>
> Kilroy is available for aviation regulatory and safety issues
>
> - Type & Production Certification, Continued Operational Safety
>
> - International validation & safety matters
>
> - Program & system management
>
> - FAA STC ODA
>
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 27, 2025, 2:23 PM ATHGroup--- via Mifnet <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> In my latest article, "*What Should Airlines Want?*
> <https://greenlandings.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/What-Should-Airlines-Want-MTS-WINTER-2026.pdf>"
> (FAA's Manager's Association, Managing the Skies, Winter 2026 edition), I
> asked a simple question, "*How should airlines want to fly their aircraft*".
> Airlines had no answer when I asked this question while introducing
> FreeFlight in the mid-1990s, and they still have no answer today.
>
>
>
> Airlines continue to unnecessarily abdicate control over the moment of
> their aircraft to Air Traffic Control (ATC). Of course, separation (and
> safety) belongs to ATC, but this leaves lots of flexibility for airlines to
> step in (and step up) to manage the movement of their aircraft.
>
>
>
> Airlines/Users need to lay down a ā€œ*day of*ā€ optimized operational goal
> for each aircraft and then execute to that goal as close as possible every
> day.
>
>
>
> Also consider that FAA's Hail Mary in its planned $32.5 Billion future ATC
> system, including the *ATC centric* aircraft Flow Management Data and
> Services (FMDS) Challenge, will do little to fix airline delays and has the
> potential to haunt airlines, and all of aviation for decades (Airline/User
> Centric GreenLandingsĀ® Aircraft Flow Solution vs. FAA’s ATC Centric TBFM
> <https://greenlandings.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/GreenLandings%C2%AE-vs.-TBFM-2025-02.pdf>,
> 2025-02). Letting ATC further institutionalize their control over the
> movement of the airline’s/user’s aircraft will lock out their ā€œ*day of*ā€
> business goals now and into the future.
>
>
>
> At a time when technology allows airlines/users to easily input their real
> time "*day of*" business goals into the movement of their aircraft
> (schedule, connections, gate availability, crew legality, fuel,
> maintenance, galleys, lavs, etc.), and especially the arrival flow (thus
> preventing most delays), airlines have no interest. Which flight lands
> first, second, third, fourth, etc. is critical to the success of an
> airline’s "*day of*" operation.
>
>
>
> For example, starting hours prior to landing, an airline/user might want
> to speed up an aircraft to move it forward in the arrival queue to land 10
> minutes early because the pilots are close to becoming illegal for the next
> flight. Or the airline/user might slow a late flight enroute, save fuel,
> and land later since the gate is not available.
>
>
>
> Or the airline may speed up a flight to make it 20 minutes early to act as
> a virtual spare or because of required maintenance. Or...but you get the
> idea.
>
>
>
> Let's face it, unnecessarily abdicating "*day of*" operational control of
> the movement of an airline's aircraft, their primary production process, to
> a government agency (privatized or not) makes no business sense.
>
>
>
> The fact is airlines can no longer afford their fire and forget, wing and
> a prayer, ā€œ*day of*ā€ operation where they send Billions of dollars of
> aircraft out on the wing and pray that it all works out. It rarely does.
>
>
>
> Starting within months airlines/users can, and must take back control of
> their aircraft movement using GreenLandingsĀ® <https://greenlandings.net/>
> ā€œ*day of*ā€, pilot managed, real time *airline/user centric*
> arrival/departure demand management solution, based on airline/user, ATC,
> and airport ā€œ*day of*ā€ requirements (business and safety).
>
>
>
> Airlines could. Airlines should. Airlines refuse.
>
>
>
> What Airlines Should Want (Managing the Skies, Winter 2026) -
> https://greenlandings.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/What-Should-Airlines-Want-MTS-WINTER-2026.pdf
>
>
>
> Airline/User Centric GreenLandingsĀ® Aircraft Flow Solution vs. FAA’s ATC
> Centric TBFM (2025-02) -
> https://greenlandings.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/GreenLandings%C2%AE-vs.-TBFM-2025-02.pdf
>
>
>
> In Sync with your Arrival  (GE Aviation, 2013) -
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=biv-7dWFprY
>
>
>
> Aviation Needs a New Direction (Managing the Skies, Nov/Dec 2019) -
> https://greenlandings.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Aviation-Needs-a-New-Direction-MTS-Nov-Dec-2019.pdf,
>
>
>
>
> ATC is Not the Problem (Managing the Skies, Spring 2022) -
> https://greenlandings.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/ATC-is-Not-the-Problem-MTS-2022-03-15.pdf
>
>
>
> GreenLandingsĀ® Real World Examples (2024-08) -
> https://greenlandings.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/GreenLandings%C2%AE-Real-World-Examples-2024-09-06.pdf
>
>
>
> GreenLandingsĀ® Benefit Summary (2023-05) -
> https://greenlandings.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/GreenLandings-Benefit-Summary-2023-05.pdf
>
>
>
> Michael
>
> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> R. Michael Baiada
>
> cell - (303) 521-6047
>
> [email protected]
>
>
>
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