Concerning point #2, apparently we had problems a while ago with a 
particular data set, sometime last November I believe.

Unfortunately, an issue wasn't raised in the issue tracker at that time, 
so we don't know right now if it might or might not be an issue with the 
current version of Mifos.
We will ask Mark next week (when he's back from his holidays) to try and 
reproduce the issue with the current version of Mifos, as he was the one 
that encountered the problem.

Cheers
Chico




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Chico,
 
Thanks for your input.  We should certainly have some continued discussion 
about this issue.
 
With respect to point #2.  So far I have not been aware of problems with 
the upgrade mechanism itself (the hooks for running SQL or java to upgrade 
the db schema and data).  The problems thus far have had to do with 
incorrect or incomplete SQL code which would be an issue independent of 
the particular upgrade mechanism being used.
 
Cheers,
--Van

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A few things I would like to add concerning this: 
 1. IMHO, schema and data migration should not be tied directly to the 
application code. Ideally this should be managed outside the application 
scope, and a DBA should be responsible for this. 
 2. I haven't much confidence that the current mechanism will handle data 
migration correctly, indeed as I understand it we have had problems here 
when trying to upgrade. 
 3. At this time, I wouldn't recommend using this approach in a production 
environment as it would be too risky. 

Cheers 
Chico 



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> Aside from the production environment, the automated upgrades are very
> convenient for developer, demonstration and test deployments where
> moving quickly and easily from one database version to the next is
very
> useful and time saving.

I would argue that there may be some value from a production scenario
perspective also.  Yes, in the case where you have an experienced Sys
Admin/DBA managing the upgrade of Mifos, they may want the control of
not running the upgrades automatically.  However, our software also
needs to be supportable by users with less technical expertise and
automatic upgrades may be useful for this type of user.  I haven't
thought through that completely, but I think it's a consideration in
terms of whether we choose to have these in production or not.

I definitely agree with Van for the developer/test scenarios.
Absolutely necessary for those purposes :)

Aliya

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